PASTOR MCKISSIC’S RESPONSE TO PRESIDENT OBAMA’S DECISION TO ENDORSE SAME-SEX MARRIAGES
By Wm. Dwight McKissic, Sr.
May 9, 2012
President Obama has betrayed the Bible and the Black Church with his endorsement of same-sex marriage. The Bible is crystal clear on this subject, and the Black Church strongly opposes same-sex marriage. His endorsement is an inadvertent attack on the Christian Faith. America is now a candidate for the same judgment received by Sodom and Gomorrah. This was a sad, sad day and a very bad decision, by our beloved President. The moral impact of this day and decision is equal to the military impact of AL-Queda when they attacked the Twin Towers on 911. Today’s announcement is a moral earthquake equivalent to a tsunami or hurricane that will have far more devastating results than Katrina.
This means that parents are now going to have an extremely difficult time teaching their children that marriage biblically and traditionally is between a man and a woman, when the President that many love and admire is now on record endorsing sodomy. This is painful and shameful. The Black Church should galvanize, mobilize and address this matter with the same (if not greater) intensity, velocity and resolve as we did the Civil Rights Movement. If we don’t, our children and grandchildren will pay a far greater price in suffering from a governmental sanction of same-sex marriage than we would have under segregation.
I will not be addressing this matter this coming Sunday—Mother’s Day; my wife will be preaching. But I will develop a sermon on this subject for the following Sunday entitled: “A Kingdom/Biblical View of Marriage” based on Matthew 19:4-6. I will be submitting a Resolution to the Southern Baptist Convention at the June Meeting in New Orleans to go on record disavowing and repudiating the position of our beloved President Barack Obama as it relates to his position on affirming same-sex marriages.
May 9, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Well said, Dwight. Well said.
You may, whether willingly or reluctantly, turn out to have been a much bigger leader, in many things, than you thought.
May 10, 2012 at 6:41 am
Bob,
I give God thanks for every remembrance of you. You are an encourager and a friend. Sharing a meal with you in NOLA will be one of the highlights of my trip.
BTW, I find your rationale for opposing the proposed descriptor fascinating and in one sense, very true. An arguement could be made to “call those things that are not as though they were” in order that it may become so. The descriptor may be more of a vision statement than a reality statement–which I guess is the point you’re trying to make. I sure want to be seated in the audience when you take the mic, beacuse you will be “setting apples of gold, in plates, of silver.” I better stop now, because I believe I just hijacked my own post and thread.
Dwight
May 12, 2012 at 11:01 am
Brother McKissic, I think you’re going to need to introduce comment moderation here. Some of these comments are getting pretty nasty. You should probably delete some of these, especially the personal attacks.
May 13, 2012 at 12:25 am
Pastor, as someone who lost a relative in the 911 attacks, can you please clarify how Obama’s opinion on marriage equality is worse than my relative & all the other lost lives in 9/11?
May 9, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Bro. Dwight,
Thank you for your moral clarity on this issue. I appreciate your courageous and Biblical stand that you revealed in your response. I was not going to write about the President’s decision on the same-sex marriage issue, but after reading your post, I was inspired to publish something after all. I will have a post which quotes your response up at From Law to Grace on Thursday morning. Hope all is well with you. I look forward to seeing you in NOLA next month. God bless,
Howell
May 10, 2012 at 6:42 am
Howell,
Thanks. Look forward to seeing you in NOLA as well, and reading your post on this issue.
Dwight
May 10, 2012 at 4:56 am
Dwight,
Yours is a superb Christian response to President Obama’s decision. Thank you for your leadership, your courage and the moral clarity of your vision.
Rick
May 10, 2012 at 6:47 am
Rick,
Thanks for visiting and for your encouragement. I’ve watch you take principled positions as well. Sometimes I’ve agreed with you; sometimes I’ve disagreed. But our unity in Christ and our center on His Kingdom ought to keep us unified against same-sex marriage regardless of our political persuasions or the pigmentations of our skin.
Dwight
May 10, 2012 at 5:00 am
[…] That is also the conclusion that prominent Southern Baptist African-American Pastor, the Rev. Wm. Dwight McKissic, Sr., seems to have drawn from what he describes as President Obama’s “betrayal” on this issue. In a scathing rebuke to the President, Pastor McKissic writes: President Obama has betrayed the Bible and the Black Church with his endorsement of same-sex marriage. The Bible is crystal clear on this subject, and the Black Church strongly opposes same-sex marriage. His endorsement is an inadvertent attack on the Christian Faith. America is now a candidate for the same judgment received by Sodom and Gomorrah. This was a sad, sad day and a very bad decision, by our beloved President. The moral impact of this day and decision is equal to the military impact of AL-Queda when they attacked the Twin Towers on 911. Today’s announcement is a moral earthquake equivalent to a tsunami or hurricane that will have far more devastating results than Katrina. (read Dr. McKissic’s full response here) […]
May 10, 2012 at 5:53 am
As a Christian I voted for President Obama beleiving in my heart he wasn’t who he presented himself to be. He has opened up the first seal and released hell upon America. My question is how many Black preachers who claim the love the word of God will continue to vote for him. Yesterday was a very sad day.
May 10, 2012 at 6:51 am
jermaine,
After yesterday, I, for one, certainly will not. Neither can or will I vote for Mitt Romney because of Mormon issues. Therefore, I will vote for an independent candidate or a write-in candidate. I agree: yesterday was a sad-sad day.
Dwight
May 13, 2012 at 11:30 am
Pastor McKissic, I think you’re being nieve or just plain ignorant about what political leaders have to do lead a country versus what you do to lead a religious congregation.
Every man who takes the oath to serve in government has to swear to protect this country against war agressors. The bible clearly states that we should not kill, yet our leader have declare war in protecting this country. So, you and all the light weight preachers who make big decisions about budgets, church program material, youth department, staff, and etc. is not to be compared with what political leaders have to do to govern a country based on a document called the U.S. Constitution, not the bible.
Also, homosexuality is not the only sin that the bible speaks out against. And I pray to God that you condemed a fellow clergyman who mostly likely engaged in vile behavior on innocent male children. I need for you to send me you remarks about what you stated on that issue,\.
Do you excommunicate overweight tithe-paying members who consistly rush to the soul food buffet after church service? The bible calls this a sin as well. So, if you’ve decided to not vote for the president this time around, you better get busy with you Pharisseean duties. Larry Simmons, larrysimmons57@gmail.com.
May 10, 2012 at 2:21 pm
After much consideration it makes it impossible to support the views in regards to this issue of my President and after a conference call today with major African American pastors across this nation, we will be speaking with one voice in standing up for the principles that come from the word of God. We have been silent for too long and we cannot allow our voices not be heard at this serious time. The president statement has cause a storm in the AA community that we are having to clean up from. We will no longer be taken for granted nor marginalized and render insignificant. This action will open the door for much more unless there is an opposing view. This is not a civil rights issue. I am offended when the color of my skin is associated with what the bible clearly state is sin. Because of the loud voices in the LGBT movement we have come to this point. It’s past time to stand up. I would never vote for a man like Romney. After being taught in SBC life that the religion he practice and is a priest in is a cult. Dr McKissic thank you for your leadership.
Pastor George Nelson Jr.
“The Word Of God Is Still True”
May 10, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Pastor Nelson,
This situation creates quite a dilemma for African American pastors. May God help us and give us wisdom. Amen.
Dwight
May 14, 2012 at 12:15 am
Pastor McKissic,
I am a white, born-again Christian, and prison ministry volunteer. My wife volunteers in a Christian-based crisis pregnancy center. I did not vote for President Obama, but have voted for a black Presidential candidate in the past. I vote character, not skin color. Barack Obama dropped enough breadcrumbs for me to see through him well before the election. And his dismal record since coming into office makes me wonder how he has any following, except with his extreme left-wing base. However, my question is larger than Obama. It is about what I see happening to your people.
The great majority of white folks whom I know are very perplexed that the black community is still so strongly beholden to the Democrat Party. It is obvious to us that the Democrats have entrenched their power base by preying on your community with entitlement pandering. It is very sad for us to watch your people being led back into slavery by the pied pipers of political pandering. We need your people to be productive people who feel that they have the ability to succeed. Otherwise, all of us fail.
My wife counsels regularly with young black women who are perfectly comfortable with out-of-wedlock babies, because they increase their monthly government support with each additional baby. And the black men simply act as studs, bringing illigetimate babies into the world with different women, and have no committment to the women or the babies.
In my prison counseling, I hear much the same stories from the other side. There is a plague that seems to have infected your younger generations, and it seems to be growing out of their belief that they can’t make it on their own……..they need the government to provide for them. And this “helpless” mentality seems to cause them to turn to out-of-wedlock pregnancies, crime, drugs, gangs and other devestating behaviors. Simply put, the government dependancy is not working.
You are a minister of the Gospel, and from what I can discern, you have a good heart for God’s children. I would love to talk with you and other black pastors who have the awesome responsibility in your respective faith communities, and understand why your people seem to be so blinded by these political panderers. Neither political party is without their warts, but when 95% of any racial community votes in lock-step with a certain political party year-after-year, it seems apparent there is a herd mentality, and it certainly sets you up for the party taking advantage of your people.
I was not at all surprised that President Obama openly embraced homosexuality. That is quite consistent with his pattern on other social issues, such as abortion, drugs, etc. His practices and beliefs are so opposite from my own, that I could not possibly support him. He is the most divisive President in my life-time, and I am 69 years old. But I am much more concerned about the larger picture. Can you help me understand? I have actually thought of trying to get a local roundtable going to discuss this issue, but have been hesitant to do so.
Thank you for your work in the Kingdom. I look forward to hearing from you.
A Friend in Christ,
Paul
May 10, 2012 at 2:30 pm
So you supported him before when he was openly pro-abortion and pro-homosexual?
May 10, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Austin,
I respect the office of the president, regardless to who holds that office. Unlike Rush Limbaugh, I did not want the president to fail. I don’t want any president to fail. If the president fails, so will the country. So yes, I supported the president with prayers; a reservoir of good will;attendance at his inaugural;and asking the SBC to honor him as the 1st African American president in history.
Dwight
May 10, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Then, you should continue to do so!!!!!!!!!
May 10, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I do not want any president to fail either, and I pray for him as our president and governing authority as the New Testament instructs us.
May 10, 2012 at 8:05 pm
[…] and Gomorrah,” Dwight McKissic, pastor of Cornerstone Baptist Church in Arlington, wrote in a blog May 9. McKissic compared the moral impact of Obama’s statement to the 9/11 attacks and Hurricane […]
May 10, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Wow. Simply wow.
I cannot believe that you compared marriage equality and President Obama’s support of marriage equality to 911 and Hurricane Katrina.
Two tragedies that destroyed, mamed and killed compared to two people who love each other who seek to become legally married? What a dangerous and uncaring comparison. Marriage equality kills not a soul.
I am embarrassed to be a Black Christian after reading this.
May 10, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Thanks for the support, you are much better than that bigot!
May 10, 2012 at 10:20 pm
That McKissic(k) character could NEVER be my pastor!!!
August 12, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Pastor McKissic is submitting to Scripture, which is what a pastor should and ought to do. Christianity isn’t a buffet where you can pick and choose what you like and leave what you don’t like. God has created the world and He tells us how is should work and that’s the way it works best. We are to submit to Him, He does not (and should not) alter based on what the people have decided is right due to popular opinion–it’s a cultural shift, and they happen all the time. At this point in history, and in this country and in this culture one is considered a bigot for not being a proponent of same-sex marriage. Twenty years ago, that wouldn’t be the case. God is unchanging and outside of time. If you are unwilling to submit to the Bible (which is to say to God), then you are essentially saying you know better than God.
May 12, 2012 at 12:16 am
Gerald:
Dwight was my pastor when I served him on his staff and have watched him struggle with dealing with issues knowing he might get the response you are giving.
My question to you is “do you believe the word of God to be the word of God?” If so, God could hold us accountable. Right? I’m not saying it is, but the President is like the rest of us and he is like a King in the scriptures. There just might be a tipping point with God. Right?
If there is a God who judges, Dwight comparison is valid. If not, maybe you are correct.
May 12, 2012 at 8:35 am
The word of God is the word of God; oh yes!!! But there is nothing scripturally that supports McKissics stand against the gay community. Literally oh yes. In agreement with the cultural context of the sciptures used to condemn the gay community? No.
Do you believe that women should preach in the pulpit? Does SBC believe in women pastors? Why not?
May 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm
How unfortunate that you would use the Civil Rights movement – a movement that sought to bring equal rights to an oppressed minority against a tyrannical majority – as a means to oppress another minority as the tyrannical majority. Have you learned nothing as either a student or participant of history?
May 10, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Well said.
May 10, 2012 at 10:19 pm
I have supported, and shall continue to support President Barack H. Obama, and WILL DEFINITELY be voting for him on Tuesday, November 6, 2012!!!
May 10, 2012 at 10:31 pm
What happened to the separation of church and state? This country is inclusive of many religions and it is the president’s job to be fair to everyone. Your outrage and negative connotations toward our president over his personal opinion and support for the ONE thing you don’t personally agree with is why I label myself as a spiritual Christian and NOT a religious one. The result of religion is in your opening statement to this thread and I want no parts of it.
May 10, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Our community is dying from depression, comparmentalism, hypocrisy and just plain sadness. And we focus on this. Where is the resolution to speak against teen pregnancy, poverty, sexism, rape and violence against our women by powerful men in our churches. There are no petitions, pleas our powerful stands regarding these issues. President Obama is stating his opinion. That is his right. Do we have to create such a distraction when our community is dying because we eat too many Fried Chicken dinners and have no discussions about diabetes or hypertension. We ate dying because we create environments where women are exploited and learn to live that they only matter to their men and we have no pleas to stop this. We have congregations where gay people are allowed to play us under the pews and the Pastor knows they are gay and my be sleeping with them and we tolerate that because it keeps our churches full and the members delirious and we do nothing about this except the obligatory God made Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve sermon. My granny role me emphatically that God made Adam, Eve and Steve. Stop saying what the Bible is clear about. The Bible is clear about many things we have found ways to contextual use because it was too painful to continue to live out: like slavery, wearing blends, eating shrimp, sleeping with women while they are on their cycles. These things are in the same Levitical code you (church leaders) reference regarding the gay issue. How about we serve our people and refocus this energy on something empowering like taking care of the people on the neighborhood surrounding our churches whether the people come or not. How about we stop putting down the gays and prostituting the gays at the same time and actually be Christ and show them love then trust God to do the changing. Lastly, if you are going to make. Stand at your next convention; actually make. Stand. Make a stand against poverty, willful ignorance, patriarchal privilege, diabetes, hypertension, Alzheimer’s disease, and drug addiction. These are the real issues of our people that need some leadership. They are not emotional and they will certainly require people to think beyond their feelings. But isn’t that our job? Are we not called to heal, set free and deliver. The discourse on who people love does none of these. This discussion only creates a distraction away from the real battles of our people and our communities. We must move stop creating supporting opportunities for the enemy to refocus us and make us believe we are okay when in fact we are dying while pointing our fingers and creating proclamations about who is saying what about someone’s Civil Rights. Finally, if we could put all the emotional energy together that we seem to muster up about sexuality towards the long list of ills that are plaguing black Christoan folks, we would have less of our men in jail, less of our children hungry and on welfare, fewer seniors afraid to go outside in their own neighborhoods and more young people happy and healthy as they pursue higher learning. We need to focus on US! We have much healing that God is holding us accountable for not doing. This issue I believe is not on the list. Please hear my heart and do not fall for the okey doke
May 12, 2012 at 12:19 am
You ignored the issue. All you say is correct. But do you have a position on same sex marriage?
May 10, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Repost from Daquicha Washington Now, let’s talk about you “Christians” who have SUCH a problem with gays IN GENERAL, not just marriage. So you use Leviticus 18:22 as the bedrock for your argument on what makes being gay so wrong, yet you are having unmarital sex, extramarital sex, have tattoos, get haircuts, wear mixed fabric, handle dead meat on the regular, lie, steal, want what others have, and LORD knows you Louisianians, especially, LOV…E your crawfish, crabs, shrimp, and catfish. You never keep the Sabbath holy, you stay using the name of the lord in vain, you took that pen from your office without permission (STEALING), look for ways to get around paying taxes (When even Jesus said “Render unto Caesar what’s his, and unto God what’s GOD’s), You lie in the bed with your wives during their menses, and women, you don’t visit a Mikveh to become CLEAN after your cycle or after you have a baby. You don’t declare war on those with belief systems other than your own (ALL OF WHICH ARE LEVITICAL LAW), and what’s most importantly you DON’T LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORS AS YOU LOVE YOURSELVES. You pick and choose which of the biblical tenets you want to be on fire about. Of ALL the commandments and Levitical laws, on that night before he was to die he instructed his apostles to “Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” (John 13:34-35). Did he say, love only those who believe what YOU believe? I doubt it. While you’re JUDGING others for something because YOU don’t like it, know that you’re being judged as well. Less judging, more perfecting your walk and being truly Christlike. And stop being lukewarm for the Lord, either you’re all the way on fire or you’re ice cold. That is all.
May 11, 2012 at 4:26 am
Wow Pastor I know what you are saying is from God because I was saying the same thing too my husband less then 24hours ago. Amen to God be the glory!!!
May 11, 2012 at 7:37 am
How interesting that your wife will be preaching this Sunday. I think that’s wonderful, but since you have said above that we must respect those words of scripture that are “crystal clear,” I’m amazed you would allow it. Hopefully she’ll at least have her head covered. And be wearing fabrics of only one type. And of course you won’t allow anyone in who is divorced and remarried, since Jesus told us that those persons are adulterers, and it’s crystal clear that adulters have broken one of the Ten Commandments, and are eligible for the death penalty.
In just a few years, the people who have fought against the marriage rights of same gender couples who love and honor one another will find their pictures in textbooks alongside the bigots of Alabama and Mississippi, who also used the Bible to justify their hatred. My prayer for you all is that you get to know some gay and lesbian couples, especially some who are faithful Christians. It’s not too late to love one another as Christ has first loved us.
May 11, 2012 at 8:25 am
Praying that your Ego will be lessened and your Heart magnified.
May 11, 2012 at 8:45 am
The level of Biblical ignorance in some of these comments is unbelievable. As Christians we are not bound to the ethnic law (circumcision, food etc.), but we are to live moral lives and that includes the ten commandments. Jesus’ command to love God and to love our neighbors as ourselves sums up the moral law. Further, the Apostle Paul couldn’t have made it any clearer.
1 Cor. 6:9-10: “9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
Rom. 1:24-32: “24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.”
Many modern day Christians fall into the category of verse 32. They know what God’s Word says and they deny it. They not only do evil but approve of those who do evil.
Further consider what Hebrews 10:26 says: “26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.”
May 11, 2012 at 10:31 am
Austin, you call others Biblical ingorant and yet the scriptures that you used to condemn the gay community or not even used in their proper context by you.
You skipped verse 23 that states:
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
This is clearly detailing pagan worship involving worshiping carved idols. The other verses detail another part of pagan religious worship; temple sexual worship.
If we are not using the Holy Word of God in its cultural and spiritual context then we surely don’t have the room to call out Biblical ignorance.
Seriously what does the Bible say about women preaching? How come we see those scriptures differently?
May 11, 2012 at 10:47 am
And what we have in the churches of those who promote, endorse, condone, and approve of homosexuality is modern day temple prostitution.
Preachers need to decide if they are going to be prophets of Baal and Asherah or prophets of YHWH.
You chide me for one verse but ignore the fact that the Bible is clear that sodomy is a sin. And then you attempt to change the topic. And that’s really nice–to compare a woman speaking or teaching to men sodomizing each other. Wow! What is your view of women?
Sorry–it is wrong to call good what the Bible calls evil. But you don’t have to justify it to me. We will all give an account before God some day, and as James reminds us, those who teach will be judged more strictly.
Far too many pastors endorsed and voted for Obama, ignoring his moral stances and radical marxism, and now, as Jeremiah Wright likes to say, their “chickens have come home to roost.”
May 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Austin you don’t get it do you? That one verse I chided you on, destroyed your whole use of the entire passage against the gay community, The context of scripture is very important when interpreting scripture and using it against others.
And no you cannot compare affirming churches to temple prostitution. LOL. You cannot change scripture to fit your closed minded world view.
And again you don’t get it. If we are to ignored one teaching from Paul and keep another one; that is cherry picking. Seriously.
You sure are big on sexual acts. Why is that? You do know that there are lesbians in the equation as well?
May 12, 2012 at 12:24 am
Sorry, but v. 23 does not unravel the other verses. AMAZING hermeneutics. If you are for same sex marriage, just say it. All good. What is your position? State is clearly and concisely please.
May 12, 2012 at 8:36 am
Alan it does. It is called context. And yes I am for marriage equality. DUH.
May 15, 2012 at 3:14 pm
@Word4theSoul — your “duh” comment says much.
You’re not the only one with a degree. The context of Romans, Romans 1, the pericope at hand, and the New Testament are not defined by that one verse. You believe what you believe no because scripture supports your belief. You just want to believe it.
Stained glass theology looks good, but is rarely biblical and life giving. Enjoy brother.
May 15, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Word4thesoul — I just checked your blog. This gay issue is rather your issue. Can I ask you a question? Why do you believe in God? You obviously do not believe in the God of scripture. Why God then?
May 26, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Alan my issue is actually inclusion. So I don’t believe in God because I don’t hold your negative view of our LGBT brothers and sisters? I guess I don’t believe in your god.
My duh was in regards to it should of been obvious by my earlier comments that I support marriage equality. I am glad you have a degree.
May 27, 2012 at 11:24 am
To Rev-Gerald Palmer, God’s kingdom is not inclusive, but rather exclusive — for no unclean thing will enter therein to defile it.
Revelation 22:14-15 – Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
You preachers who uphold sin are surely making a lie. You’re not only damning your own souls, but those souls of those who follow after your deception. In the beginning, satan told Eve that is was OK to sin, and that deception ruined her, her husband and the entire human race. God is serious about His Word, whether people are or aren’t.
Here’s the truth: If you’re born with a desire for the same sex, then you must get Jesus in your heart through a real blood-washed born again experience so that you will deny the lust of the flesh. You may still have tempting thoughts at times, but you must resist the sin with the love of God in your heart. And, trust me, when you really have Jesus, you don’t want to ever give in to sin — any sin. However, the rebellious person who rejects God’s plan of redemption through the blood of His Son Jesus will surely wake up in the torments of hell one day. Hell is full of people who thought that a good God would not send them to such a place, but they now realize that they fell for satan’s deceit; they’re eternity is forever sealed as the endless ages roll on. What a shame that they sold their souls for temporary satisfaction.
May 11, 2012 at 9:32 am
“Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked Him a question, tempting Him, and saying ‘Master, which is the great commandment in the law?’ Jesus said unto him, ‘THOU SHALT LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL THY HEART, AND WITH ALL THY SOUL, AND WITH ALL THY MIND. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, THOU SHALT LOVE THEY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF. On THESE two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets!”
(Matthew 22:35-40).
The operative word – LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s a beautifulo thing. Try it!!! #thatisall
May 11, 2012 at 10:02 am
Yes, and what does it MEAN to love God? To live for Him, to serve Him, to not worship idols etc.
And what does it mean to love thy neighbor? To not steal from your neighbor, to not murder your neighbor, to not wrong your neighbor morally etc.
No matter how hard you try, you can’t equate Biblical “love” with fornication, adultery, or any other sexual sin the Bible names. And you can’t use the command to love to either justify sexual sin or to justify telling people their sexual sin is okay.
The command to love sums up the law.
May 11, 2012 at 10:55 am
Pastor McKissic,
You have taken a bold and courageous stand, one for which you will be criticized as is already happening in these comments.
Jesus, though, taught that we are blessed when we are persecuted for what is right.
You will be blessed by God for standing up for what is right and true!
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May 11, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Without forsaking all sin, i.e., repentance, there is no forgiveness from God no matter how much one uses Jesus’ name or the name of some other god. Let it be know, therefore, fornicators, adulterers, homosexuals, whoremongers, liars, thieves, gossipers, tale bearers, back-biters, drunks, revelers and so forth will face the truth one day, but there will be no favor from God (grace); it will be judgement day without mercy.
Revelation 20
[11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
[12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
[13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
[14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
[15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
May 11, 2012 at 3:59 pm
It has been a sad surprise to hear President Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage. I have encouraged him, and thought that he was a man of honor and integrity, and filled with the audacity of hope that he wrote to us about. I am commited to praying for/with him. Now, however, I will have to re-think, and discern whether I can vote for him again. God created the human bodies of a man and a woman to fit together beautifully, and to procreate children. I think that we certainly should pray for, and show respect for everyone, no matter who they are, however to say that same sex marriage is okay goes against God’ s Holy Word and Plan for marriage. We need to put this to a vote across America. It is incredulous to me and to many other people that I know to have the president of our country say & do what he has. WOW!! Am deeply concerned about what this teaches our children, as I am a teacher, a mother, a grandmother, and a Christian. I do not consider myself to be ultra-conservative, nor way-out liberal, but balanced in perspective, and my spiritual life. It is astounding to me to realize what is happening.
May 11, 2012 at 6:24 pm
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May 12, 2012 at 12:33 am
I agree Dwight. The President crossed a line he did not have to cross but he did. Oh how I wish I could be at the Stone in the next two weeks 🙂 but all good. I have been encouraging people to pray for the President — http://www.alanstoddard.com — but I am also convinced he does not believe the Bible. And the ramifications of this decision can be huge.
When the President endorsed same sex marriage, he was not giving only his opinion. He was giving his theological framework. He said, “I do not believe God’s word is true.” Is that too strong?
I cannot do NOLA this year. I hate missing Luter Time. Ugh. I hope to see you sometime. You are the man.
May 12, 2012 at 5:17 pm
President Obama stood with courage by endorsing marriage equality.
What upsets me the most is that the religious right continues to drown the conversation of gay marriage by constantly invoking their radical and extreme views of distancing a particular group of people. Instead of fighting about who’s right and wrong, find yourselves being on the right side of history by encouraging and supporting those who are different from you. Indeed, we will not all agree on the same thing — which is a great thing. However, please do not judge me because my sins are different than your sins. Truely, there are something that keeps you up at night.
To the preachers who pick and choose about what to preach against continues to divide the church. This creates separation and removes those who are simply attending service to receive an uplifting and edifying word. As the younger generation steps out and embrace people for being people — regardless of who they choose to find themselves in love with, I predict that the church’s voice will become mute. The sure fact of the aforementioned comes from a religious survey that indicates 44% of younger evangelicals accepts gay marriage. When the church is no longer a priority in the average American’s life, I will fault nobody but the church itself. A relationship and conversation with God trumps any individualized opinion that a preacher has on any subject matter.
May 12, 2012 at 7:04 pm
It does not matter what polls say. It only matters what God’s word says. Unless we do not really have any authority in life. Then, EVERYTHING goes. Right?
May 13, 2012 at 12:21 am
Well said Ken! Black churches and pastors need to come out against divorce in the same attitude as marriage equality. Is it wrong for a pastor to have been married to more than one woman? What about sex before marriage?
Discrimination is wrong. Everyone doesn’t worship the same God. If 2 buddhist women who live in the USA want to get married, they are entitled and have nothing to do with anyone else. Alot of the black community has a sense of expectation (mortgage assistance, welfare, WIC, etc.) from the government. However, keep this same ignorant hatred attitude toward gays and watch the black community get poorer and poorer, while the rich get richer. It’s up to you as a parent to ensure you teach your children right from wrong. My parents took me to church every Sunday. My parents ensured I made “Straight” A’s and went to college. There was no debate on it. I went to school and got a job before graduating. I am 36 and have been partnered for 13 wonderful years. Believe me, we are covered and protected in the law like a married couple. This is because we have money and had to pay an attorney. It was very inconvenient & unfair for those who cannot afford an attorney. No one knows us & we dont hurt anyone.
Black church & community, we have got to wake up & realize: Discrimination is unacceptable. The government is a separation of church & state. I am black & gay and telling you this is a civil rights movement. Obama has to be president to all US citizens. Not just the hypocritcal black church. But understand that by not voting for him, you are voting for Romney. If you or anyone you know receive govt healthcare, welfare, WIC, medicare or anything socialistic…be careful. Romney is gonna hurt the black church & community where it really matters. Treat others like you want to be treated.
May 14, 2012 at 1:36 pm
When a society routinely begins to violate all of the laws of God, they create a construct which says intolerance is wrong. Therefore, good becomes evil, and evil becomes good.
This is not the first public stand that Obama has taken against Biblical principles, each time, catering to his extreme left-wing Godless factions. He is not expected to be a preacher, but he should be guided by the two documents that were used in the founding of this nation – the “Holy Bible” and the “United States Constitution”. He has trampled on both of them. He seems more interested in the “Koran” and Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”.
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May 13, 2012 at 11:53 pm
I wish this type of moment would have exploded when Paul Crouch owner and president of TBN claiming the gospel of Jesus Christ in every country while being caught in a homosexual act cover-up, and every black pastor break to preach on TBN with no complaint while raking in millions upon millions. I wish this same moment would have exploded when Bill Clinton jeopardized our country while being pleased in the White House by a wayward woman while his wife sleeps down the hall and stating in so many words “oral sex” is not physical sex, yet children all over the country began having “oral sex” on school buses and class rooms while teachers taught. I wish this same moment would have exploded while Bishop Eddie Long parade across the t.v. preaching damnation while he performed homosexual acts with young innocent boys while pastors stood back and watch yet came to his defense disrespecting his congregation as Mr. Dollar has done. I wish this same moment would have exploded while for years upon years Catholic Priest then and now have and is getting away with hundreds of young boys being raped in homosexual acts and no one has yet done anything about it.
Log Cabin Gay Republicans have been on a move concerning the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell Act that started as early as 1956. President Obama was barely born. So why is it so important for the church to mix religion with politics? Is it because it’s religion taught? David a man after God’s own heart had a man killed because he slept with his wife. Peter acting like a thug cut off a mans ear. Jacob married two sister because he knew nothing about the family order of marriage. The Angels had to blind the homosexual’s so they could not see the door knob while trying to save Lot and his family from God’s wrath.
I have an opinion just like President Obama. I think God is using him to reveal the messed up state we are in as a Country. One week we are fighting and marching for a young man being killed by a white man, while our black community is killing each other hour by hour daily. Is that not worst than Katrina? The next week we are playing politics. Where is our concerned pastors? We have politics in the church that seem to be helping the Republicans mission to tamper with the votes that are moving forward in the black community. Now we have found another reason to divide blacks against a black president. The state is over crowed with children abused, molested, left for dead, lost, kidnap, etc., and what are we during complaining about voting for a Black President who God used to step in and saved this country from destruction. How can we forget! Are we so programmed in the black community that we are waiting to attack President Obama. What is the problem? There is enough mess going on in the church! That is why I feel God has to use President Obama because there is not anyone in the church God can use. God could not find 10 righteous people in Sodom and Gomorrah. I am so tired of the mess in the church. I can’t get my son or boyfriend back in the church. It bothers me because when I go it is always something! What does it profit to gain the whole world and lose your soul. Where is God in all of this? Who are we to JUDGE. JUDGE not? Is it wrong to come out from these pulpits preaching damnation and reach out to those we feel are living in sin? The harvest is plenty yet the labor is few. There is no where in the Bible that reads gather a few thousand in your churches to pay your salary and forget about the others. If homosexual is a sin as YOU say it is, what part are you playing to convert those souls to Christ. We are not created to demean and degrade folk because we are not happy with their lifestyles. Christ knows all and see all. What you sow, you reap. Be careful, while we are pointing a finger how many are pointing at you. You all better Google these pastor who are standing behind these pulpits judging, the devil has turned their lives or their congregations upside down with homosexuality, affairs, divorces, fighting, etc. God will not be mocked and God is not a Joke!
May 14, 2012 at 10:28 am
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Funny. I would have thought Obama’s known aggressive support of abortion, even partial-birth abortion, would have betrayed the Bible and ANY church regardless of color.
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May 15, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Since my last comment I have frequent several site on so many issues in this country, including responses to the same sex marriage.
As a ponder at the comments that has cause division among people I began to think on the church. When I found Christ in the 70’s there was lesbians and gay people saved in the Church. Pastor would preach damnation and sitting on the piano was a gay musician everyone thougt “could really” play that piano. It was never a problem. Throught my life every convention, evening program, mid-week service, gays prance around the church with the pastor.
Gay’s frequent the church when no one else did. When the pastor preached at another church, the gay organist travel with him. There has never been an issue. Black Pastor’s welcome gay’s and knew they were gay. This attitude allowed gay’s and lesbian’s to run rampant in the church. Pastor’s for years in black and white churches turned their heads. It looked so good that pastor’s preaching damnation became scandlous: Ted Haggart, Jimmy Swaggart, Marvin Gorman, Jim and Tammy Bakker, Peter Popoff, Melissa Scott, Mike Warnke, Robert Tilton, W.V. Grant, Bob Moorehead, John Paulk, Paul Crouch (TBN) the biggest network in the world, Eddie Long, Marcus Lamb (christian network), Jason Russell, Benny Hinn, and the list goes on and on.
Where was all this same sex energy then. Furthermore, not one pastor or one church stepped out in the “name of Jesus” to reputed, rebuke or demise this Sodom and Gomorrah behavior. The church has never tried to get a hand on homosexual perversion, they joined in.
Since the church never denounced it and the world was okay with it, gay’s and lesbians decided to take it to another level. Thousands march in parades in the streets for years demanding “right.” Again, where was the Church! News media showed footage of gay’s and lesbians weddings, marriage, unions in New York and other states, where was the Church! Gay’s and Lesbians began adopting innocent babies into their lifestyles, where was the Church!
Black and white churches turned their heads to Christan Broadcast Station caught in homosexual acts. Pastors continue to preach and spit in microphones convincing folk is they did not send money to these broadcast stations they would be off the air. Still turning their head to the homosexual acts of these mega buck President and CEO who own these stations.
Now, the curtain is pulled back and the world is being revealed. Who but Pastor’s want to call “Foul.” Who but black and white pastors patting each other on the back say “way to go” the President is causing our Country to fall.
He has caused “sin” on our nation. He got to go!
If God judge President Barack Obama for his opinion, then you too will be Judged! You were guilty long before President Obama came on the scene. Name one “Black or White church that don’t have a homosexual person in office? If it’s okay with you, why is it a problem with the President?
You can fool man, but you can’t fool God! It’s not about what the President said and we all know what this is about.
If it is about gay’s then you too have caused doom and destruction to our country.
You have open your doors to the WORLD. They came for Deliverance! Psalm 94:11 “The Lord knows our thoughts.” Psalm 51:4 “Against You, You alone I have sinned and done this evil in Your sight.” Leviticus 13: “Could the Church have prevented this infection from spreading.” Or, are we just “Pagan worshipping,” Jeremiah 44: 17, 19 25 – 30.
Satan’s tantalizing question, “Did God really say, You can’t eat from any tree in the garden? Genesis 3:1.
Did God really say, The Church is forgiven and the President is not?
May 16, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Obama – Impeach him. He is not of God nor represents the Jewish christian god in any form he sentences us to punishment and destruction Now we have a nation led by a godless president and goverment. Our fore fathers gave God praise and credit for our very foundation.blessings.mercy.morals.and leadership in him we trusted and followed his laws. Its no wonder we falter.
God help us Sodom Gomorrah. America from our King
May 21, 2012 at 8:08 am
Hi Pastor McKissic, I have the following questions: Now that the NAACP has come out and officially endorsed gay marriage as a “civil right”, does this mean this organization represents the opinion of the African-American community at large on this subject? Should all African-Americans fall in line with this organization on this subject for the sake of unity in the African-American community? I’m a bit torn? Please see the article with the following link: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/us/politics/naacp-endorses-same-sex-marriage.html
May 21, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Steven,
The NAACP left the Bible behind for political expediency long ago. It is time for blacks to realize how convoluted this organization has become. To give gay marriage equal status with civil rights is an insult to anyone who is using critical thinking, especially those who fought for civil rights years ago.
Stop being dragged around by the perversion peddlers, and instead,begin looking at cultural and political issues through the prism of a Christian Worldview. Your heart will then cause you to ignore the Satanic movements that are peddling everything counter to God’s Word.
Obama’s photo on the recent cover of Newsweek, with a multi-colored halo over his head, and the caption “America’s First Gay President” says it all about this man who has all but destroyed this country, culturally and economically. Please don’t follow this pied piper, and compromise your Christian faith, under his guise of “civil rights”. He is the same man who supports full-fledged abortion-on-demand.
If America tosses the sanctity of human life aside, we are headed for total destruction. Gay Marriage, Abortion and Evoluton are some of the major tools Satan is using to dupe people in this politically-correct society. Don’t fall for it.
June 8, 2012 at 1:39 pm
God bless you, my friend! Just saw this and plan to share it with our people.
June 12, 2012 at 2:24 pm
The Black Church have to use “WISDOM” here! This issue is moreso about politics. Please do your research and homework……Bush’s wife approves of abortion even though it wasnt acknowledged publicly until after his office was complete. However, from the heart, the one that God looks at and judges, it was there. That’s why it eventualy came to the light. “VOTE: for Pres Obama this year. He’s not the first and want be the last President that have endorsed what we call immorality. This is a game used by the media to blind and discourage the week-minded people. My people perish for “lack of knowledge”! Objective is to “Divide & Conquer”..dont let this happen to us again. There’s too much education out there to walk as a foolish christian. The old saying still stads. “Don’t throw out the baby with the nasty water”. overall, Pres Obama has been the best President of this United States. He’s Wise, Smart, Strong, & not easily persuaded. Get Educated before you degrade your own. “A House Divided Want Stand”! Let’s pull together for once in a life time & stop the CRABS IN A BUCKET” mentality. God Loves All of us. Check your closet before you cast a stone, i have no doubt that you too havde hidden beliefs and actions that are not appropriate or pleasing in God’s eyesight!
June 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm
First, I will state that religious leaders in America have not done an effective job in fighting for the traditional marriage and in fighting against this scourge called gay lifestyle. Marriages involving polygamy, bestiality, and fetishism could have been applied by the religious institutions as the types of marriages to expect if homosexual marriage is allowed.
Second, let’s leave religion aside for a moment. If the government sanctions a marriage between a man and a man or between a woman and a woman, then explain these to me: on what moral, legal, or constitutional foundation will the same government refuse to allow a marriage between a man and his mother or sister, a marriage between a man and his car, a marriage between a woman and her dog, a marriage between one woman and three men? Further, what of teaching children about safe gay sex in schools? Can you support gay marriage without supporting teaching safe gay sex? I am telling you, the doors will be wide open when you allow one exception because you must allow all these other exceptions since you have no moral, legal, and constitutional justification to exclude these other madness and insanity! It is a matter of fairness and logic. Allow one, you must allow all, or you will be a hypocrite. It is already at work and the destruction caused by tsunami and Katrina will be a child’s play in comparison:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/gay-parents-study-kids-social-scientists_n_1589177.html
June 20, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Oh, the world will come to an end if gay people are allowed to marry.
Wait, we’ve had same-sex marriage in Massachusetts for 8 years. 8 years. Gee, it sure looks like God is mad at them! Especially since Katrina happened in a state that has a ban on same-sex marriage.
Wait, maybe you are EXACTLY wrong! Perhaps God is only punishing the bigots and homophobes, which would explain quite a bit.
June 19, 2012 at 7:17 pm
“f the government sanctions a marriage between a man and a man or between a woman and a woman, then explain these to me: on what moral, legal, or constitutional foundation will the same government refuse to allow (1) a marriage between a man and his mother or sister, (2) a marriage between a man and his car,(3) a marriage between a woman and her dog, (4) a marriage between one woman and three men?”
1. Genetics — the risk of inbreeding (I’m surprised anyone has to ask this)
2. Is this seriously an issue? Does anyone want to marry their car? If they did marry their car, what problems would that cause for anyone?
3. See #2
4. What harm would this cause? (I think the Bible speaks approvingly of polygamy in one or two places, though it’s usually multiple women for one man… but we’re talking about real reasons, not scriptural ones.)
June 19, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Freely given informed consent between adult humans solves all of those scenarios.
June 19, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Oh goody! I love these things!
“If the government sanctions a marriage between a man and a man or between a woman and a woman, then explain these to me: on what moral, legal, or constitutional foundation will the same government refuse to allow a marriage between a man and his mother or sister, a marriage between a man and his car, a marriage between a woman and her dog, a marriage between one woman and three men? ”
Well, let’s start of with the fact that it would be the same moral, legal, or constitutional foundation by which the government sanctions marriage at all. The fact that the church got the government to confer special privilege on the institution of marriage is what got us here in the first place. By co-mingling church and state, the state now has the authority to determine who qualifies for the privileges conferred by marriage. If you want to keep the institution as the exclusive domain of your faith and exclude whoever you like from it (and honestly, I have no beef with that), then keep the state out of it and don’t expect any legal privilege associated with it.
As for your examples, I think Woozle and Scojoman sorted it out in enough detail that I won’t go through it point by point.
“It is a matter of fairness and logic. Allow one, you must allow all, or you will be a hypocrite.”
Well, since you said it, yes, if you don’t allow all consenting adults to choose what kind of legal partnership to engage in, then yes, you probably will be.
June 20, 2012 at 7:19 am
Of course, you are vocal, very vocal. But still, you did not address the real issue. The real issue is not that you want to create your own values or force the society to adopt or validate your personal choices. The real issue is fairness and inclusivity. You want your personal desires to be the law of the land. You demand that the society make an exception to your personal choice, to your personal proclivities and desires. But I also have my own desires and proclivities. My neighbors have theirs too. If an exception is made for yours, then mine must also enjoy the same exception, whether or not you like it.
As men (I am assuming you are a man), we both got a lot of in common. We got mothers. We got fathers. We insert foods and drinks into out mouths, not into our noses. We wear shoes on our feet, not on our heads. If I decide to wear my shoes on my head, I will not be breaking any law. However, I will look abnormal in a society of humans. Genetics got nothing to do with the abnormality in this case.
But Genetics says that men and women are different. It does not say that a man can be pregnated by another man or that a woman can be pregnated by another woman. As a man, your lust to mate with another man is genetically useless. In fact, it could lead to new dangerous mutations. But of course, you have to right to change your genetic information according to your personal choice that got nothing to do with me as much as my personal choice to mate with my mother got nothing to do with you. Inbreeding or no inbreeding, having sex with my mother is matter of my choice. I may decide to simply enjoy the sexual escapades without producing any offspring just like your sexual proclivity can never lead to any offspring.
Of course, there is no serious issue about a man marrying his car or his dog. But the man who enjoys such a lifestyle still pays taxes as a member of the society. He participates in wars to defend his society. It is his choice love as he sees fit and we must respect that choice as you desire that we respect yours. Are you suggesting that we respect your choice while condemning his?
Yes, the Bible approves of polygamy in the OT, but the society disapproves of it in the law books. Also, the society disapproves of sodomy in the law books. This is one of the real reasons to make the changes we both desire inclusive. Your personal desires and my personal desires are real and the law books must be modified to satisfy our personal proclivities. It is only fair and just that we both get our real and imaginary lifestyles and desires inserted in the law books.
June 20, 2012 at 10:35 am
Only one or two things I’m going to bother to respond to here:
“Also, the society disapproves of sodomy in the law books.”
No, it doesn’t. Show me one city or state where sodomy is illegal in this country.
And hmmm, I’m a lesbian. My wife and I sure figured out how to have kids, and it wasn’t that hard! Why do our children not deserve the same legal protections of children of heterosexual parents? Is it ok to discriminate against our kids too?
June 20, 2012 at 9:40 am
I would LOVE to hear you preach about the “sanctity of marriage” in the Bible. Its such a fabulous role model for a two parent heterosexual household. Oh, wait, it isn’t.
BTW, who was it Cain married? How many wives did Solomon have?
Are you suggesting we go back to the Bible rules for how people get married? Because if that’s the case, there are a LOT of rapists we need to let out of jail and force their victims to marry.
June 20, 2012 at 11:58 am
“The real issue is not that you want to create your own values or force the society to adopt or validate your personal choices. The real issue is fairness and inclusivity. You want your personal desires to be the law of the land. You demand that the society make an exception to your personal choice, to your personal proclivities and desires.”
Can I just hold up a mirror here for a second? How does that statement apply more to me than to you?
How is it not “demand[ing] that the society make an exception [for] your personal choices” when you want laws to prevent two people from marrying each other — something which affects you not at all?
How would I be “demand[ing] that the society make an exception [for] my personal choices” when I say I want my gay friends to be allowed to marry — especially when, again, this affects you not at all?
Also, I don’t really see the difference between “force the society to adopt or validate your personal choices” (which you say the problem is not) and “demand that the society make an exception to your personal choice, to your personal proclivities and desires” (which you say is the problem).
June 20, 2012 at 2:25 pm
1) You are a man, and you want to marry another man.
You are a woman, and you want to marry another woman.
2) I am a man, and I want to marry my mother.
3) Peter is a man, and he lusts to marry his sister.
4) John is a man, and he desires to marry a dog.
5) Sarah is a woman, and she desires to marry a goat.
6) Michelle is a woman, and she lusts to marry a boat.
7) James is a man, and he loves to marry four wives.
8) Todd is a man, and he desires a marriage with a character in a computer game.
9) Marry is a woman, and she wants to marry a computer.
10) Pascal is a man, and he craves having sex with pigs and he wants to marry a pig.
Which one of the above should the society legalize?
Which should the society discriminate against?
Which should the society teach to young people?
Be straight with your answers – no strange answers, please!
June 20, 2012 at 2:40 pm
@BabaZ
I want to marry one particular book that I love.
Can I get Obama to promote my lust and desires?
Man admits having sex with 1,000 cars
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2000899/Man-admits-having-sex-with-1000-cars.html
Man Caught Having SEX with his Car
June 20, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Only #1. Although the Bible condones 2, 3, and 7.
Maybe we should stop teaching all that sick, twisted stuff in the Bible. Like that a rape victim must marry her rapist. Or that its ok to sell your daughter into sex slavery, as long as you get a good price.
2 CONSENTING Adults, not already in a familial relationship. That’s what we should be teaching our kids.
June 21, 2012 at 7:56 am
BabaZ: most or all of your questions have already been answered.
Basically, modern Western marriage is between two consenting adult humans (as opposed to other more traditional forms of marriage, as found historically and in the Bible, which allowed for polygamy and so forth) who are not already married or too closely related.
Please let me know if you still have any questions.
June 21, 2012 at 8:59 am
“The real issue is not that you want to create your own values or force the society to adopt or validate your personal choices. The real issue is fairness and inclusivity. You want your personal desires to be the law of the land. You demand that the society make an exception to your personal choice, to your personal proclivities and desires.”
That’s an intriguing formulation, but it would be better stated as “I demand that society NOT make an exception for me.” I’m not the one who made the state recognize my faith’s version of a partnership as a privileged and legally-recognized institution. I’m just asking my government to stop discriminating. I’m not asking your church or anyone else’s to make any changes. As for society? It has already changed and it’s just demanding that the law catch up.
June 22, 2012 at 8:16 am
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July 15, 2012 at 8:10 am
At the age of 49, I have been a Christian, and proudly so, since the age of 14. Pastor McKissic, my spouse and I reside in your area and plan to visit your church site very soon. Thank you for understanding that God’s word is firm; that God loves EVERYONE but hates and despises certain behaviors which sets mankind apart from him.
My world was rocked with President Obama supported same-sex marriage while simultaneously standing as a Christian. I have family members who agree with his decision and others who uphold God’s word and repudiates same-sex marriage and relationships; and I disagree with President Obama’s decision. I voted for Obama in 2008. Having made such a Bible revolting decision, which I would never make no matter what position I held, I am unsure of my voting decision this year. Ultimately, President Obama will have to justify his decision to the Lord God.
The word clearly speaks against abominable behaviors, such as: adultery and gay behaviors, etc. People must realize that YES, God and Jesus LOVES everyone but hates sinful and abominable behaviors. I have heard people say to me, “oh, same-sex relationships and marriages are just another sin”. This flagrant attitude of something being “just another sin” bothers me deeply. It says that oh, it’s okay. So I said to one, so since murder is a sin it’s okay then? NO!! Also, abominable sins are not “just another sin” either. Same-sex relationships are unnatural behaviors which go against the natural order God created. God’s acts of condemnation against Sodom and Gomorrah was real and can happen again today!
I have family members and friends who are gay. I love them but will NEVER stand in support of their behaviors. Our world clearly depicts the New Tolerance which is leading millions away from God’s word; which will undoubtedly make a significant impact in their eternal lives. There are only 2 roads our lives will occupy in eternity: Heaven or Hell! If we are serious about taking the Heaven road, PLEASE we must pray for God’s guidance and strength to uphold God’s word, no matter WHO misinterprets or misquotes his word. Rereading the Book of Revelation always restrengthens my understanding and firm stance on his word. The Book of Revelation always reawakens my soul and reeducates me on the upcoming events the world is and will experience.
If you do not stand upon and for the “ROCK” (God’s word), you are standing upon QUICKSAND!!
July 28, 2012 at 3:40 pm
I stumbled across your comments pastor and as a true Christian over in Atlanta I totally support your firm stance. We need more true believers to unite across all racial lines, both sexes, and all ages to protect a sacred institution such as marriage. What saddens me about our race is that the Democratic Party has so many blacks brainwashed into thinking that they always have our best interest and since Obama is half black, he has a death grip on the black vote. Even though us African-Americans are the most socially conservative on issues such as gay marriage, polls say that despite Obama’s betrayal of the God’s word, 87-90 percent of all blacks polled still plan on voting for him. I cannot offer him my support even though he won’t win my mostly conservative state of Georgia. People need to realize that we are in a spiritual battle and the stakes couldn’t be higher. I like you believe in judgement from our supreme God. He has shown us many times throughout the Bible that he is not to be mocked. Allowing unrestricted abortion and gay marriage is like a spit in his face. We are all sinners and we all must repent, however, we must not let that line be crossed. I’m a recent college graduate in my twenties and I love the fact that the southern US still maintains a sense of Godliness down here even though not quite as profound as it used to be. I’m sure you’ve heard of our GA based Chick-fil-A restaurant is being attacked as being anti-gay just because Dan Kathy who is the owner said he doesn’t support gay marriage. The mayor of Boston just recently said he wouldn’t allow a gay hating restaurant to open in his city. That is totally not right. Chick-fil-A is a great establishment and they have been very successful everywhere they have ventured, they even make billions of dollars a year being closed on Sunday! That is just one of many battles that we will face as Christians over the next few years for our beliefs. I would love to come to one of your sermons if I ever come to Arlington, but more importantly, we must mobilize a nationwide army of true believers and stand firm in upholding traditional marriage despite what Mr.Obama says. Even Jesse Jackson, the NAACP, and Al Sharpton are endorsing marriage equality, shame on them. Woe be unto those who know better and still continue to support wickedness. There are far more of us than them who believe in keeping marriage sacred. Keep up the good work in TX and I’ll work hard here in GA and hopefully more Christians will get more active and stand bold for whats right.
August 3, 2012 at 2:59 pm
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September 23, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Dear Rev. Wm. Dwight McKissic, Sr. do you have a copy of the sermon I could read? I would like to know more about your position on Gay Marriage and the Black church. I’m the editor in chief of IBNN NEWS in Minnesota. 612-986-0010 or email it to ibnnnews@gmail.com
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