IS A GEORGIA BAPTIST COLLEGE COVERING UP RACISM?
BY WM. DWIGHT MCKISSIC, SR.
The Bible says, “Do not receive an accusation against an elder except from two or three witnesses” (1 Timothy 5:19).
Three witnesses recently came forth to deliver charges of racially offensive comments from the lips of Dr. Ergun Caner, who recently resigned as President of Brewton-Parker College in Mt. Vernon, Georgia. Dr. Caner did not resign when faced with the allegations of racist remarks. His trustee board—including Michael Pigg, a Black trustee—all stood by him. They did not consider the testimony of three witnesses reliable enough for them to hold Ergun Caner accountable for his racist speech. When the then chairman of BPC Trustee Board was given testimony of Dr. Caner’s racist and vulgar comments, Gary Campbell’s response was: “Why are y’all making a bigger deal out of this than it is?” according to Dewayne Bynum, Director of Plant Operations at BPC, who also reported to the trustees, racist comments made by Dr. Caner. Bynum further reported that Dr. Caner’s comment to his (Bynum’s) attorney was “It was no big deal”!!! What incredible, irresponsible responses to racist comments of the most vile, vicious, and vulgar sort…“It was no big deal”!
People underreport racism for the same reason women underreport rape. Why? Because there are a great number of people who categorically dismiss, disregard, deny, deflect, defend, marginalize and seek to destroy anyone who would dare reveal to larger circle closeted racism. The way the BPC trustees have handled, or mishandled, the reports of racism on their campus would discourage anybody from ever reporting acts of racism there.
If we are going to root out racism in society, we must gather the intestinal fortitude to gracefully, lovingly, humbly and truthfully confront racism, whenever and whenever it raises its ugly head. We cannot conquer what we do not confront. We cannot fix what we don’t face. In order to defeat racism, we must confront racism.
Gary Campbell became acting President at BPC for a few days following President Ergun Caner’s resignation and before the appointment of Dr. Charles Bass as the interim President. During Campbell’s brief presidency, he fired Dr. C. B. Scott, one of the Vice Presidents at BPC, because Dr. Scott reported to the trustees and the executive staff at BPC the allegations of Dr. Caner’s racist remarks. Seriously, BPC? You would fire a man for reporting racism, at the same time that you want to recruit minorities to your campus? Now that we know for certain how the BPC trustees will handle allegations of racism, we also know that it is not a trustworthy place for minorities to attend, if matters of race have to be adjudicated by the current trustees.
When faced with inappropriate sexting communication allegations, the BPC trustees allowed Dr. Caner to resign. But when faced with allegations of racist commentary, the BPC trustees wholeheartedly gave support to Dr. Caner. The racial indiscretions should have been just as weighty to the BPC trustees as the “inappropriate” communications allegations.
Perhaps if Dr. Caner had been held accountable for inappropriate words in the past regarding women and the Black church, things wouldn’t have ever gotten to the place at BPC where Dr. Caner would have been comfortable communicating irresponsibly, racially and sexually.
In a recorded sermon a few years back, preaching at a men’s gathering in an Ohio church, Dr. Caner shows certain insensitivity toward women:
I would certainly pause before I considered sending my daughter to a college presided over by a man who reflected the mindset revealed by the statement above. The attitude and mindset behind the above statement suggest that he holds women in less than high esteem.
While preaching in the pulpit of FBC, Jacksonville, FL, several years ago, Caner gave an extremely false caricature of the Black Church. Ergun Caner made condescending and stereotypical remarks concerning the Black Church in a sermon preached at First Baptist of Jacksonville, FL. Caner’s observation certainly would not be true of the Black church that I pastor and the majority of Black churches that I’m aware of. Yet, his remarks were met with approving laughter. I don’t believe that he would have made those same remarks in a Black church. Caner essentially said Black churches do not put the preacher up to preach until about 1:00 p.m. That’s not true. Black churches, according to Caner, take up “twelve offerings”. That’s untrue. Caner further stated:
By the grace of God, I have been privileged to preach over the past thirty six years in twenty seven states, at least seventy five cities, and in over one hundred and eighty pulpits or public venues across the length and breadth of America. The vast majority of those preaching assignments were in Black Baptist pulpits. My point is, Ergun Caner may have had a better opportunity to judge the social mores of the Black church more so than I, but it’s doubtful. I can truly say that what Ergun Caner stated is simply, generally not true. As a matter of fact, I’ve never witnessed what he described. If I stated that White preachers preached in Hawaiian shirts and encouraged married couples in their churches to have sex seven straight days, and wore toupees; that may be true in isolated cases but it would be unfair, inaccurate, and racially stereotypical, without foundation, for to me make such a claim as normative.
Caner owes FBC Jacksonville an apology. Caner owes the Black church an apology. His remarks were damaging to the reputation of the Black church in the minds and hearts of his hearers. One would expect better than this from a college President.
When I read Caner’s untruthful words about the Black church spoken at the major, Anglo FBC, who really couldn’t evaluate whether or not he was being truthful, I don’t find it a stretch to believe that he said the words attributed to him by persons at the Brewton-Parker College that he was President of until recently.
Dewayne Bynum, Maria Garvin, and Zakery Pitt—three witnesses—have all gone on record with first-hand accounts of racial rhetoric espoused by Dr. Caner. All three of them were found to be less than credible in establishing a truthful testimony that Dr. Caner had spoken racially offensive in the eyes of the trustees. My heart bleeds for these three brave citizens of the Kingdom of God, who sought to address this matter biblically by reporting it to the proper authorities. My heart bleeds for Dr. C.B. Scott who would dare provide a listening ear and address the concerns of these two students and one faculty member to the proper authorities.
Dr. C.B. Scott, is not only terminated, but is asked to sign a paper indicating that he will only testify on behalf of BPC against the three witnesses if this matter ever reaches the court system. How sad!!! BPC trustees refused to discipline the man who spoke the racist words, but was willing to fire the man who brought to their attention the racist words. How sad!!!
I am just a voice, crying in the wilderness; but I am going out on a limb, stepping out on faith and asking the BPC trustees to reconsider their decision regarding firing Dr. C.B. Scott. I’m asking that you offer him his job back. As a matter of fact, Dr. Scott has the integrity, scholarship, pastoral and administrative experience, and the backbone to serve Brewton-Parker College through this turbulent transition season in the very position that he was released from. Dr. Scott could help restore wholeness to the school again. His return to the faculty would certainly restore the trust to many, that matters related to race would be dealt with fairly and objectively and not swept under the rug.
Director of Plant Operations at BPC, Thomas Dewayne Bynum, provided the following statement to BPC trustee chairman, yet it was disregarded:
“This is a statement regarding a conversation that I had with Dr. Ergun Caner, President of Brewton Parker College February 5, 2014. I had gone over to the president’s house to talk with Dr. Caner about an email that he had sent days earlier about a potential “cyber stalker” incident. We were talking about the shape of the facilities and what needed to be done to get all of the buildings repaired and/or updated. At this time Dr. Caner said that he was misinformed by the board of trustees about the magnitude of the problems at Brewton Parker. I told him that they may not have known the full extent of the buildings issues because they had been misinformed. Dr. Caner then stated that he believed that they were aware and then said “they nigger dicked me is what they did”, I could not believe my ears and asked him “what did you say” and he then said “they nigger fucked me”. After this l must admit that my mind was reeling and I did not really comprehend much of what was said the next few seconds. We finished our meeting about the buildings (which all took place beside his car behind the house) and I left. Later I spoke with a vice president, Dr. Scott, and related to him that Dr. Caner had spoken to me on a vulgar way but I did not go into detail about what was actually said. I was embarrassed to give Dr. Scott the details at the time and told him that I hoped that it was because Dr. Caner was upset and it was not how he actually felt. Since then I have had conversations and overheard Dr. Caner speak in derogatory ways about African Americans, so I am now convinced that this is a part of his character.” (Director of Plant Operations, Brewton Parker College, Thomas Dewayne Bynum)
Maria Garvin’s statement:
“Yesterday, December 16, 2014, I, Maria Garvin, along with Zak Pitt were told to put in some light bulbs at Dr. Ergun Caner’s home. This was called in around 3:20 PM. Zak and I were let into Dr. Caner’s home by Dr. Caner’s youngest son Drake. Upon entering their home, Drake went to the back where we could here Dr. Caner talking on the phone. Personally, I was under the impression that Drake had gone to tell Dr. Caner that we were there to put in the light bulbs for him, but ten seconds later, Drake returns down the hall and tells us that his dad wasn’t quite ready yet. So Zak and I waited in the dining room area that is across from the front door.
Not too long after Drake had told us to wait, I begin to over hear a few of the things that Dr. Caner was talking about on the phone. One of the first things I heard was an issue that had gone on pertaining to the track team. Juan Castanon had been kicked off the team due to him swearing at the coach Matt Smith and the athletic director Greg “Boo” Mullins. Dr. Caner had his phone on speaker so not only could we hear everything that Dr. Caner was saying, but we could also hear what Juan was saying. Juan begin to ask Dr. Caner about his scholarship money and whether or not he would be able to keep it. Dr. Caner told Juan that he talked to the people in financial aid, and he would be able to keep his track scholarship even though he is ineligible to run through NAIA. Juan told Dr. Caner that he was aware of this to which Dr. Caner asked if Juan had sworn at the track coach and the athletic director. Juan reassured Dr. Caner that this information was false and that he would never do that, and he would never do such a thing to anyone. Dr. Caner then told Juan that Coach Mullins probably pulled his scholarship to try to free up more scholarship money for the baseball team. Juan agreed and shortly following, they both hung up the phone.
Not too long afterwards, Dr. Caner called someone else to which he discussed his previous phone call he had received from Juan. I believe it had to be his brother solely based on the conversation that followed. Dr. Caner was asking for his brother’s advice about what he should do in the situation concerning Juan. His brother responded that he had his VP of Affairs handle those types of situations. Dr. Caner then said that he wouldn’t dare put the individual that he had for that area over the situation because it was Dr. C.B. Scott. He then proceeded to tell his brother why he wouldn’t allow Dr. Scott to be over the situation stating that Dr. Scott doesn’t know how to communicate well with people, he is a terrible teacher, he doesn’t work well with others, he doesn’t fundraise, and to top it off he acts like he is half black. Personally, all of the statements that were made towards Dr. Scott I found obscene because I think he is a nice person, and I’ve never had a problem with him, but for Dr. Caner to say that Dr. Scott acts like he’s half black struck me as odd. What exactly is wrong with being half black or black at all? I was beyond offended when I heard that come from the president’s mouth because I am half black. I also thought that for Dr. Caner to be such an eloquent speaker and well respected leader that that was a very narrow minded thing for him to say, and in that brief moment, I lost my respect for him saying that.
Additional comment by Maria Garvin:
“Recently, a circumstance has occurred that has led us to believe that the president of Brewton-Parker College has been a participant of racial discrimination. However, there have been several instances in which this has happened on the campus of Brewton-Parker. Racial discrimination is a social issue that not only affects students on campus, but also the community around them. Discrimination has become institutionalized, meaning that various systems, with higher education being one of them, make decisions based on race unconsciously and sometimes consciously. Many times racism and discrimination can be taboo, but if we can address it up front, then we can change it upfront. Colleges are a significant part of what a community is, and the students are a huge part of what a college is, as it provides education for students coming from various neighborhoods and high schools. They can become a major turning point for students in building relationships with people of differing backgrounds than their own. If college students can become more aware of racial discrimination and what it means, they will be better equipped, as our country is becoming more diversified. There will be a need to understand racial discrimination and working with others different than oneself in the workforce. Racial discrimination is real and we need to address it. The differential treatment of people based on the color of their skin should not be tolerated.
With that being said, it is imperative that this current situation pertaining to Dr. Caner’s remark be addressed. If it is okay for the president to make such derogatory remarks, then who is he to correct anyone relating to such matters? Moreover, if we can attribute this behavior to Dr. Caner, it is safe to suggest that he condones this behavior seeing as how he displays it himself. A college president must be in tune with the student population, which is almost always comprised of hundreds or thousands of diverse individuals from all over America and around the world. Dealing with so many people and their opinions is a daunting task; the plethora of problems that are possible when several students collide with each other are limitless. However, how can one deal with these same individuals’ problems equally if all of these individuals are not viewed as being equal?
In short, this incident must be handled swiftly and with care. Even if that means contacting a higher power such as the NAACP whose sole purpose is to “inform the public of the adverse effects of racial discrimination and to seek its elimination” and “ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of all citizens” as it clearly says in their mission statement. As a part of the student body at Brewton-Parker and a member of the African American community, I feel that it is my responsibility to aid in this effort.”
Zakery Pitt’s Statement:
“Yesterday, December 16, 2014, I, Zakery Pitt, as well as my co-worker Maria Garvin overheard a disturbing conversation at Dr. Caner’s home. Around 3:30 our boss, Dewayne Bynum, called and instructed us to go to Dr. Caner’s house with some light bulbs. So Maria and I went to Dr. Carter’s house with the light bulbs and were met by his son Drake at the door. We followed Drake inside and as we waited in the dining room Drake went to a different part of the house to notify Dr. Caner that we were there. Drake came back and told us that Dr. Caner was not ready yet, so we were under the impression that he would be out in just a minute. As we were waiting in the dining room Maria and I overheard Dr. Caner talking on the phone on speakerphone. I quickly recognized the voice as Juan Castanon, a student at Brewton Parker. During the conversation Juan was asking about his scholarship money for next semester for track. The athletic director, Boo Mullins, pulled his scholarship because of disciplinary actions regarding the cursing out of Boo Mullins and the head track coach. Dr. Caner asked Juan if he cursed them out and Juan denied it several times. Dr. Caner continued the conversation by reassuring Juan that he had his scholarship and that he would receive that scholarship next semester. The conversation ended at that point.
At this point Maria and I were sure that Dr. Caner was aware of our presence and he would join us in the dining room, but he started another conversation on the phone with whom I assume was his brother, Emir Caner, President of Truett Mcconnell College. He was asking him for advice on how to deal with the situation with Juan and the AD Boo Mullins. Caner said he felt that Boo needed to be checked with his power because he thought the only reason Boo pulled Juan’s scholarship was to free more money for the baseball program. Caller’s brother explained to him that at his school he placed the VP of Affairs over the AD. Caner said that Dr. C.B. Scott was his VP of Affairs and there would be no way that he would place him in that position. Dr. Caner continued by saying some disrespectful comments about Scott. Caner said that Scott was “horrible in the classroom, horrible with people, did not try to fundraise money, and thinks he is half black.” Dr. Caner also continued by saying that Dr. C.B. Scott wanted to be the Academic Dean. Caner and his brother laughed out loud and Caner said that Scott would never be put into that position. After that Caner received another call.
The third and final call was from Jennifer Blaylock. She called him complaining about Nikki Jones and Leslie Harrell. Blaylock said that Nikki Jones was repeatedly telling Leslie Harrell to not do something even after Caner told Blaylock to tell Harrell to do it. From Blaylock’s voice I could tell she was very upset and mad, even going to the extent and cursing (“shit”) while explaining the situation to Caner. Caner told her he understood why she was mad but it wasn’t Nikki Jones’s fault. Also, Blaylock was complaining about how Leslie does not know how to do her job because Nikki Jones did not train her fully. Caner responded by saying Nikki Jones will continue training her until fully equipped.
After Caner’s final conversation, his son Drake went back to where Caner was and again told him that we were still waiting. Caner obviously did not know we were still there as he acted dumbfounded. He came to the dining room and said that he could change them himself and he did not need our assistance. So Maria and I left Caner’s house.
Throughout this whole incident I was shocked for many reasons. As the president of a Christian college you should live by a higher standard of professional morals and ethics. The comments made about Dr. C.B. Scott were obviously unprofessional, but were also erroneous. Also, why is Caner believing a student over his administration? Above all, the racist remark by Caner really upset me. If our student population would have heard the things I heard, especially the African-American population, they would no longer want to attend a school under the realm of Dr. Caner. I find myself questioning the leadership and integrity of our president Dr. Caner. In fact, that questioning of Dr. Caner is a prominent factor in my decision to transfer schools this Christmas. I genuinely enjoy this school and the people in it, and would seriously consider coming back if people seriously reconsidered who they have as president of Brewton Parker College.”
According to Maria and Zakery, Dr. Caner referred to C.B. Scott as “half Black.” I have two grandsons that are the byproduct of an inter-racial marriage. Therefore, I found his “half Black” statement particularly bothersome, inasmuch as the context of the words he used suggest that being “half Black” is seen in a negative light by Dr. Caner.
Biblically speaking, how did BPC trustees dismiss the testimony of three witnesses? Actually, there were four total with the FBC Jacksonville statement?
My appeal to BPC is to simply do the right thing. Admit you acted in haste and prematurely in the dismissal of Dr. C.B. Scott. Offer Dr. Scott his job back. And please cease publishing articles that paint Dr. Caner as a victim.
Ergun Caner is a man that I’ve never met. I have no great admiration or disdain for him. I have no axe to grind with Ergun Caner. I am definitely not a Calvinist who is out to win a theological debate against him. He and I probably share in common a strong disagreement with Calvinism. Caner is a man who is hurting. His son Braxton committed suicide several months ago. As a result, Ergun Caner has faced some medical issues in response to his grief over his son that certainly any parent can relate to and be sensitive to.
Therefore, my intent here is to express gratitude, respect, admiration and appreciation for C.B. Scott for his bold, biblical and courageous stand to hold Ergun Caner accountable for racially insensitive and racist words from his mouth. It is not my intent or desire to bash Ergun Caner. If we are going to eradicate racism from this world, we need more men like Dr. C.B. Scott.
My prayer is that God would heal Ergun Caner and his family’s aching heart. My prayer is that the Lord would repair the broken pieces of Caner’s life. My prayer is that God would build Caner up where he is weak and strengthen him where he’s torn down. My prayer is that God would raise up Caner’s bowed-down head. My prayer is that Caner would smile and be set free again from the chains that seem to bind him. My prayer is that Caner would soar high again in ministry and minister to others mightily from the pain of his experiences. Therein may lay the secret to his healing.
I pray that God would meet Dr. C.B. Scott’s every need during this turbulent season in his life and his family’s sojourn. I pray that he, his wife or children will not become bitter, angry or unforgiving. I pray that they will not be weary in well doing knowing that in due season they will reap if they faint not.
I pray that Brewton-Parker College trustees would offer Dr. Scott his job back. At the very least, I pray that they will provide for him a one-year service package with full medical benefits. It is morally reprehensible for C.B. Scott to walk away from BPC with absolutely nothing, while Caner walks with a full one-year salary and benefits package.
In this season, where the Southern Baptist Convention is making quantum leaps forward in race relations, I pray that Brewton-Parker College’s handling of this situation would not be viewed by historians one day as a step backward by a SBC-affiliated institution.
February 5, 2015 at 12:06 pm
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August 16, 2015 at 11:54 pm
Hello Dwight,
I agree with you that “Caner is a man that is hurting.” But…I think there is more here than meets the eye. In addition to the loss of his son, it seems that his wife is cuckolding him. Please see:
Click to access caner-divorce-petition-compressed.pdf
Could it be that “Butch” was cucked by a black man or black men? He probably knew what was going on. Or she could have told him that she was cucking him and that it would continue? Why else would he list “adultery” in his divorce petition?. Why else would he seem so angry at blacks?
Either way, I hope that he will address his anger and grief issues and I hope that he will repent.
February 5, 2015 at 12:52 pm
Dwight thank you for this post. Revelation sheds light in the darkness. There some things you simply cannot hide. This has been going on far too long. It is a shame and disgrace before the Almighty.
Troy
February 5, 2015 at 4:20 pm
Troy,
Agreed. Amen. May the healing begin.
May 15, 2015 at 10:05 pm
Oh Mr. McKissic little healing has begun! If you knew the rest of the story in regard to Caner. Caner is a mentally ill, evil, liar, narciss. Praise God he is not at BPC !
Today BPC’s dean of women and a Vice President removed a female student’s belongings from her room WITHOUT her knowledge, placed them in a bag and threw them in a trash dumpster. Discrimination continues!! These two people are very evil. The dean of women doesn’t qualify academically for this job and she is supposed to be the women’s advocate.??? That vp informed the faculty that he was hired to protect Caner. He hardly looks like a body guard. How could someone be that evil who calls themselves a Christian? Caner has left BPC. So why is this vp still there’s?
Now the sheriff was called to arrest them for stealing and he replied he had to contact the local DA. It seems that Mt. Vernon is covering up a lot. A sheriff always has absolute authority to arrest for probable cause of course.
We have some extremely weak male leaders who are refusing to act who are trustees and our current acting President. Seems like they need a push from outside. My heart aches for BPC. There are faculty still trying to instruct and lead despite the surrounding demonic powers!
February 5, 2015 at 12:54 pm
Dear Dr. Mckissic: There are some things not ringing quite right with reference to the sources and causes of the problems. One item is that the Dr. Caner is not from the same culture as we are, that is, he did not grow up in the South like you and me. Even so, knowing what little I know about Moslem culture (the background of Dr. Caner’s family), one wonders whether the prejudice as we know it has any part in it. A second item, we are dealing with a person who must be suffering from PTSD, the suicide of a son, especially in a family where the original roots was in a culture that placed such a premium on the son. I think Dr. Caner’s experience is distorting his outlook and response to events and relationships. What else could explain a man jeopardizing such a prestigious position by using language which he must know will destroy his effectiveness sooner or later. As a professional counselor, I sense something aberrant in the whole affair.
As to the offensive things he said, there can be no doubt that to use such language would be the quick and short way out of such a job. I have no sympathy whatsoever for Dr. Caner in the use of such language, but I do have to question his mental situation. I think the board of the institution did not handle this situation right at all. They should have sent this man for counseling (preferably with a Black Psychiatrist or Psychologist). They should not have dumped Dr. Scott simply because he was going to tell the truth as is required by law.
I can appreciate your desire to correct a situation that was obviously needing correction, but remember Dr. King’s words to the effect that Love can and will win the day. You and I want the same thing. We want to end racism, prejudice, class snobbery, cultural and tribal conflicts, but our means for such problems is unconditional love as Dr. King pointed out in his Lecture for the Nobel Prize. One reads his wonderful words with a sinking feeling about how far short we fall on this effort. When I first hear about the firing of Dr. Caner and that it was over racism, I took the very same stance you have taken, one which I think most of us would take in view of the situation. However, as more information has become available, I have come to think (and I might be utterly wrong), that there is some not ringing true in this situation. Why would a man jeopardize a prestigious position, salary, and career with such stupid language. I reflected on what I knew about the Moslem culture, admittedly limited, and I had to wonder what kind of an impact did the loss of that son which meant so much to a man from that background have on him.
Please tell me of your reflections on this aspect, and please remember I have no interest, desire or inclination to approve of such language and abuse which I consider to be hurtful and damaging to people. God bless you in your work.
Sincerely,
dr. james willingham
February 5, 2015 at 4:35 pm
Dr. Willingham,
Thanks for visiting here. You indicated that your knowledge of the Middle Eastern/Moslem culture was limited, and I know even less about it. Therefore, I will not speculate as to how much Caner’s cultural background might have factored into his decision making of his word choices and mindsets.
The witness statements speak for themselves. I agree, that his choice of words indicate something was/is amiss. In that vein, I can appreciate the BP trustees giving a nice severance package that gives him space and time to heal. I regret that they did not afford C B a similar kind of opportunity, given his wife’s health condition and the tremendous strain that he must have and is under trying to gain accreditation for the college, and manage the racial crisis brewing.
Thanks again for your insightful comments here.
February 5, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Dr. J: Caner has no excuses. His racist vulgarities were made in Feb. 2014. His son died in July 2014. No stress or PTSD can be used as an excuse. His character is the only place to put blame. He is not a victim.
The true tragedy here is not that Caner resigned BPC, but that CB Scott was fired. He should be offered a severance package, but who can expect the BPC trustees to do the right thing now when they’ve done the wrong thing so often lately?
February 5, 2015 at 8:25 pm
Dale is right. Caner is offered grace and CB is given the boot. We are called to let Caner and his family heal but there is no offer of healing for CB Scott and his family. I suspect Caner was given a generous severance package but we are told CB gets nothing. People are choosing to believe Caner and disbelieve CB and the people who brought the allegations, but who has the greater reputation for honesty and integrity?
February 5, 2015 at 7:00 pm
> Dr. Caner is not from the same culture as we are, that is, he did not grow up in the South like you and me.
No, in fact, Dr. Caner grew up in Ohio from the age of 3 years old.
> Even so, knowing what little I know about Moslem culture (the background of Dr. Caner’s family)
Dr. Caner’s father was Muslim, his mother and grandmother did not attend Mosque after the divorce, in fact, his grandmother was Lutheran.
> we are dealing with a person who must be suffering from PTSD, the suicide of a son, especially in a family where the original roots was in a culture that placed such a premium on the son
Again, Dr. Caner was raised in suburban Ohio by his Swedish mother and Swedish Lutheran grandmother. He did occasionally attend mosque with his father, but eventually his mother obtained exclusive custody rights. All of this is public knowledge.
Caner’s son’s death is very tragic, but it is no excuse for the decades of misbehavior.
> but remember Dr. King’s words to the effect that Love can and will win the day.
Ergun Caner has consistently lied about his past, and the SBC has covered up for him. His antics may have finally done him in.
> Why would a man jeopardize a prestigious position, salary, and career with such stupid language.
Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the past five years, you’d know that this kind of behavior is true to Caner’s nature. He has in the past used such racial slurs *in sermons* that he has sought to have purged from the Internet through legal action against fellow SBC members.
We can only hope that this finally will cause Dr. Caner to repent.
February 5, 2015 at 7:54 pm
Dear Dr. McKissic: That Dr. Caner did wrong, I fully concede. There is no question about that on my part. I am also aware of the facts about his past. Even so culture still goes a long way as you ought to know from the history of your own people in this country. Alex Hailey’s Roots is a case in point. However, I am not mounting a defense of Dr. Caner. I am writing about what is best for all parties concerned. And yes I do emphatically think there is a possibility that this man is suffering from PTSD. Imagine being fired from being the head of Liberty’s Theological Seminary. Then think of the loss of a son by suicide followed by the attack upon him by someone who claim my kind of theology. AS to the firing of C.B. Scott, I utterly repulsed by the conduct of the Board in this respect. While I do not know C.B. personally, I do have knowledge of him across the years (he pastored in this association where our son serves). In any case, I know of no evil against the man. He is resolutely (and rightly!) set to do what is right. The incongruity of the Board in giving Dr. Caner a severance package and cutting off C.B. sticks in my craw. Even if C.B. had done wrong, he did not deserve that. In more than one case, I have advocated for a decent severance package for men who have been discharged – even if they were to blame- and, C.B.’s particular case here, there is none that can be construed. Whatever others have argued about personal differences or irritations are things that are to be covered by the same grace extended to us by our Lord. So I hold with C.B. in this clear matter.
As to Dr. Caner’s failures, I would call your attention again to Dr. King’s words about unconditional love winning in the end. Our Lord said that we are to forgive a man every time he repents even up to 490, and that does not mean that we can strike back on the 491st time. But our God has forgiven us, and his forgiveness is the cause of our repentance, our faith, and our love. Our lovely Black lady who drives our Senior citizen’s bus to the center sang for us the other morning a hymn which speaks of the cause of our love in the very words of I John 4:19, “We love him, because He First Loved us.”
Many of the aspects in Dr. Caner’s conduct, in his words, his relationships with others, suggest that there is something amiss with the man. I certainly do not approve of his views about women, if the remarks quoted are any indication. In fact, I hold that women can minister. Guess how that makes me fly with both the Calvinists and the Traditionalists? I grieve over the way Anne Graham Lotz was treated some years ago, when the ministers turned their chairs so that she spoke to their backs. I don’t think they had ever read I Cors.13:5 which can be rendered in a positive fashion, “love is courteous.”
If we could win Dr. Caner to a better understanding of African Americans and of Christians who are determined to help one another to learn to do right, we might get a lot further down the road to winning the whole earth to Christ which Daniel 2, among other references, indicates is a possibility, “the stone becomes a great mountain and fills the whole earth.” We are not going to just see the word of God win the whole earth for a generation, but for a thousand generations and reach untold numbers of planets during the next 900,000 years. If you want to know where I caught a glimpse of the power of agape love, it was among your own people.
Make no mistake about where I stand. I am only trying to carry out what I learned from African Americans themselves, something which led the famous Historian Arnold Toynbee to remark to the effect that the awakening of mankind might well come through humble African American who has reminded us of the real claims of Christ.
February 5, 2015 at 8:27 pm
Amen Dr. Willingham.
February 5, 2015 at 8:37 pm
Bill,
You are right. This boils down to a matter of credibility-Caner’s verses C B’s credibility. Thanks for you “cut to the chase” comment. Thanks for visiting.
February 5, 2015 at 2:08 pm
Dwight, thanks for shedding more light on a very troubling situation. I have to say that this conversation is long over due. As you demonstrated so clearly in your article, there were indicators that were ignored and now rather than dealing with the problem, what it appears like is that everyone, even those who are reporting on the situation, only want the problem to go away. This is sad, hopefully your blog will be a place where this subject can be discussed.
February 5, 2015 at 4:36 pm
Mitch,
Agreed…Amen!!!
February 5, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Hi Dr. McKissic,
many people, myself included, are very concerned for C.B. Scott and his family under the present circumstances . . . I hope that soon, C.B. will find safe harbor and be employed in the company of trustworthy people. There isn’t enough money on the whole planet to tempt him against his conscience, which you cannot say about many folks these days, and I am sure he does not deserve the treatment that he has been given by the college. Thanks for keeping us informed. I feel sorry for Dr. Caner in the loss of his son, but those remarks, if accurately reported, were extremely shocking to many people. When I hear about things like this, I say to myself, ‘prayers needed’.
God Bless, and remain safely in the peace of Our Lord.
February 5, 2015 at 4:40 pm
Christiane,
Always a pleasure to have you visit. I agree with your assessment of C B’s character. I share your grief for the loss of Caner’s son. May the Lord pour out his grace, mercy, and healing in our time of need.
February 5, 2015 at 3:14 pm
Unfortunately, it is all too easy to see what is going on. All the calls for people to stop talking about this situation is not to “heal” Caner or his family (which certainly needs it) but to hope against hope that the allegations go away. I was particularly troubled by the article at SBCToday which fabricated ridiculous scenarios that might exonerate Caner and essentially threw CB Scott under the bus. CB is the key to this whole situation. He’s not a Calvinist. He doesn’t have an anti-Caner agenda. I don’t know if he is a “Traditionalist” but he has always been welcomed by them as one of them. And he is honest, and upright and has high integrity. But yet they are willing to assume wrongdoing on his part to pretend no wrongdoing on Caner’s part.
Frankly, I think BPC would have been better off just announcing the resignation and not writing another word about it. But when you start seeing glowing articles about Caner, it was just inviting the kind of scrutiny that they now so desperately want to stop. Sorry, but this is the information age. Stuff like this just can’t be hushed up. The fact that the investigation of the “inappropriate behavior” immediately stopped with a promise of resignation speaks volumes to what the BPC trustees and administration considers important. Damage control. No investigation, no scandal. This is not really about Caner, it is about the top echelon of BPC and their colossal bad judgement: Who they hire and who they fire and everything in between.
February 5, 2015 at 3:55 pm
Like CB, Ergun and his brother, Emir, are aligned, as far as I know, with the Traditionalists side. However, the truth is that a failure on the part of one is a problem for the whole. One can appreciate CB’s determination to tell the truth. One can also fault the board for a cover up attitude along with the fact that they are trying to preserve the institution from a scandal that will be harmful to all parties. I write as a believer in Sovereign Grace (some wrongfully call them Calvinists) and as one in utter sympathy with the African American Cause, as one opposed to the use of pejorative language. However, the failure of one is painful and even harmful to all. Like John Donne’s remark to the effect that one man’s death diminishes me, so one man’s failure is likewise a matter of grief.
February 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm
Bill Mac,
I share your agony over the SBC Today article that glossed over the serious racial allegations at BPC. I was astounded by that. And they really know the truth too. They simply didn’t see is as such a big deal, as did the trustees at BPC.
Your analysis is this situation is spot on. Thanks for visiting.
February 5, 2015 at 4:07 pm
I feel that I must add more to what I have just written above. Thus, I call attention to I Cors. 8:1 where agape love is said to edify or build up. Imagine, if you will the greater value to our whole community of Southern Baptists, if we determined on a course which would involve counseling and training to correct such errors. I remember participating in a race relations conference in Orangeburg, SC. The aim was to prepare the Black and White students for massive integration. Each group of students, consisting of an equal number of Black and White Americans, had two group leaders, one Black and one White. We used the Johari window as a means to help the students get some insights into the personalities and experiences of their opposite number in that day and time. I do remember how surprising it was for the students to find that knowing the experiences and thoughts of another person could change their perspectives on the whole matter. This is one of the things that we need to do with reference to our theological differences and, it would seem, the BPC needs to do the same with reference to something that should have been settled long ago, their use of racist language, etc. Our real aim is to empower the witness for our Lord and Savior; it is not to change the theology of anyone else, except by the honored methods of persuasion, for we all stand to benefit by being united in our willingness to suffer to bring about a better commitment to our Lord and His cause.
February 5, 2015 at 6:00 pm
It appears the trustees not only wanted Scott to not disclose the damaging facts he knew, but if called to testify in court they wanted him to lie. That is all that can be understood from forcing him to sign a document agreeing to testify on behalf of the school against the employee and students who heard Caner’s vulgarities.
This is ungodliness in the highest order. Georgia Baptist pastors should camp out at the state convention building demanding Bucky Kennedy, and any other trustee who covered it up, be removed.
February 5, 2015 at 6:08 pm
I can’t argue with you. Someone needs to hold the trustees accountable for the decisions made or lack thereof regarding the three witnesses. Georgia Baptist Pastors are the ones that should do it.
February 5, 2015 at 8:11 pm
We can talk about trustees all day long. But someone also needs to ask about the state involvement. What was Bob White’s role in this? He doesn’t rule all power and dominion in the state but surely he’s involved in these matters. And he’s been silent while one of his colleges basically crumbles. This is happening on his watch and he has washed his hands of responsibility. And people wonder why there are trust issues with state conventions. Men like Bob White who fail to act when needed and allow this need to be held responsible for their inaction just as trustees should be held responsible for their actions in the coverup.
February 5, 2015 at 8:25 pm
Jimmy,
Praying wisdom upon the interim President at BPC, the new trustee chairman, the search committee for a new President, and Bob White is a must. I also pray that they will submit to godly wisdom. My prayer is that God will make a miracle out of the mess that’s being evidenced at BPC. Thanks for visiting.
February 5, 2015 at 9:08 pm
Whosever Will,
Seth? JD? Whosoever you are, we have fixed the proofreading error. 🙂
February 5, 2015 at 9:54 pm
Rick,
Thanks for visiting here, even if it’s just a hit & run.😄
Rick. will SBC Today deal with the race issues involved in the Caner issue, or gloss over it?
You all made C B a villan for handling a situation with courage, character, and integrity. To argue that he shouldn’t have addressed this because of his position was to simply allow racist language and mindsets to go unchecked.
February 5, 2015 at 10:19 pm
Wasn’t me Rick.
You don’t think I’d use my name?
February 6, 2015 at 5:03 am
Hi Dwight,
I do have a longer comment stuck in moderation…possibly because of links I’ve shared that report the story from the side of the trustees.
For what it’s worth, no one at SBC Today condones racial slurs or vulgar speech. They are inappropriate for Christians. That really goes without saying. The particular expression Caner is accused of using is one I had never even heard before. I had to look it up at Urban Dictionary. It’s actually a combination racial slur / curse word. I am offended by it.
I don’t anticipate, at this time, that SBC Today will write any more about the story. In this particular case, if the trustees had concluded that these things indeed took place, what additional punishment would they heap on Dr. Caner? He lost his job. He lost his son. His health is poor. He describes himself as a “broken man.” In that situation, I would not see it as “glossing over.” I would see it as, “Enough is enough. No need to pour any more punishment on this man.”
We most assuredly did not make CB a villain, as I explain in the comment stuck in moderation. He was called “bold, forthright, honest, a scholar and a gentleman.” We have no beef at all with CB. We simply point out that the trustees of the institution have procedures for reporting violations, and perhaps CB violated those in the manner in which he addressed issues. Later, the report by trustees essentially confirmed this account. In any event, given the whole imbroglio, it is hard to imagine CB continuing at the college. Some reports indicate he was looking to leave even earlier.
The whole situation is admittedly a mess. And it is very sad. SBC Today felt that some of the reporting on blogs was less than balanced, because it did not present the side of the trustees. Specifically, a “cover-up” was alleged. In our view, the very existence of an investigation by the trustees means there was not a cover-up. They did not deny such charges. They looked into them. That’s not covering up. It’s conducting an official investigation and forming a conclusion based on their evidence that is different from what some may believe they should conclude.
February 6, 2015 at 7:06 am
So, Rick, the trustees have a side stating that CB violated the “rules” and didn’t follow a proper “procedure” for reporting this mess. And since he was already looking for a way out (due to the fact that he couldn’t work with a man for whom he had no respect? Just speculating there….), then his leaving shouldn’t be seen as any big deal.
Sorry, but the trustees bungled this one big time, and no amount of spin can put this fact in positive terms–CB was fired for being a man of God who didn’t follow the “rules”. Caner was allowed to slip into the shadows with whatever dignity he had remaining in tact. CB is going to suffer financially for his lack of “discretion” in dealing with the matter. Caner walks off with money in his pocket.
The trustees wiped CB’s blood off of their hands on Caner’s shirt tail. What’s happened to right and wrong when we have to couch it in terms of “he didn’t follow the rules for reporting disgusting/damaging/disqualifying information about his superior?”
I’m sorry, but SBC Today has become as worthless as SBC Tomorrow.
February 6, 2015 at 8:54 am
These are similar to the words the BPC trustee used about CB while simultaneously explaining that CB’s infraction was so egregious that it required immediate firing. No warning, no discipline. Just a promise of a generous severance if he keeps quiet, or as some are reporting, that he actually testifies on behalf of BPC. Backhanded compliments indeed. And after explaining how justified he was in firing CB, he immediately resigns his post. ???
BPC is making much of the fact that they did not ask Caner to resign, but that he resigned voluntarily. Technically true, but the fact is they didn’t ask him to resign because they were still investigating the allegations, and Caner resigned rather than defend himself against them. That’s a little different story than what is being suggested (that BPC would have been happy and willing for Caner to continue as president).
February 6, 2015 at 8:58 am
Dale,
I also grieve the termination of CB Scott. In thinking about this matter, I have wondered what would have happened if the situations were reversed and Dr. Caner had been terminated while CB Scott had simply resigned.
Then, no one would be blaming the trustees for an alleged cover-up, and CB would have a healthy financial settlement to help him move on.
It almost seems that this is what some people desire out of the situation–for the trustees to have said, “You can’t resign, we fire you” to Dr. Caner, although I have not heard anyone outright call for this action. As the pressure built, the trustees simply allowed Dr. Caner to resign.
Once a man has resigned his position, the role of his supervisors pretty much becomes moot. I do not know with certainty if they ever completed the investigation or if they closed it because it was moot. Again, once the employee is gone, it’s over. I have never evaluated an ex-employee.
As Yoda might say, “Over, the Caner Wars are.”
I have no knowledge of the college’s rules for reporting violations. Thus, I cannot speak to CB’s alleged personnel rules violations. CB is a good man. To suggest otherwise was certainly not the point of any article at SBC Today. Our article simply suggested that the blog reports that had come out thus far had not really addressed the side of the trustees. The trustees were attacked for a cover-up, when in fact they were not covering the matter up, but were engaged in an investigation. The facts regarding that investigation came out a day or two later.
February 6, 2015 at 10:36 am
Rick, I understand what you’re saying, I just believe that a board of trustees can come back and re-evaluate a bad decision. I’m not saying that they should rescind Caner’s resignation and fir him. I am saying that they should re-evaluate CB’s firing and offer him the same dignity and justice that was offered to Caner. That’s just an opinion fromt he cheap seats, and I’m certainly in no position to effect change at BPC. That will be up to Georgia Baptists.
February 8, 2015 at 1:29 pm
For what it’s worth, no one at SBC Today condones racial slurs or vulgar speech. They are inappropriate for Christians. That really goes without saying. The particular expression Caner is accused of using is one I had never even heard before. I had to look it up at Urban Dictionary. It’s actually a combination racial slur / curse word. I am offended by it.
Rick: Then write a post on SBCToday saying this. If you do not and simply “don’t write on it anymore”, that is nothing as the 2 articles that are in deep error will still remain.
SBCToday will remain without credit on any further subject until the wrongs of the other articles are made right.
February 8, 2015 at 1:30 pm
That really goes without saying.
In light of the two articles posted, it really DOES need saying by SBCToday.
May 15, 2015 at 10:19 pm
Amen! To that because the control continues by Bucky Kennedy! I am repulsed by things I see continuing at BPC. No wonder others don’t attend our churches anymore. They are weary if the hypocrisy!,
February 5, 2015 at 9:35 pm
A few more things to notice here. Although the article at SBCToday did fabricate some fictitious scenarios in which Caner was not guilty of wrongdoing, they did admit that it was possible their narrative wasn’t true. But the subsequent article by Kennedy is very carefully worded. Notice the argument isn’t that Caner didn’t use racially inappropriate language, only that he isn’t a racist. The argument isn’t that he didn’t engage in “inappropriate behavior”, only that his marriage was fine, with a hint that if there were “inappropriate behavior” it was a result of grief. I’m not sure how to connect those dots. Also note that it was never said in the article that the accusations weren’t true, only that they showed Caner that he needed to resign. It is actually an impressive attempt at misdirection.
February 5, 2015 at 10:30 pm
I thought the same things bill when I read Bucky’s article. Carefully worded and full on denial. Bucky did say one thing that’s absolutely true though – “Ergun is a prideful man.”
He’s so prideful and encouraged in open sin by so many that he seems to have thought he could do as he wanted…with impunity. He’s now resigned from 3 institutions (each shrouded in controversy – but simultaneously – supposedly -voluntarily)
Dwight, you are so right in your article (and you know I don’t say that lightly to you. 😉 ) this seems to be a coverup of epic proportions and (as if decades worth of disqualifying behavior weren’t enough) Ergun Caner – by his own words and actions – has disqualified himself from ministry absent genuine and public repentance and humility.
Caner has been publicly making jokes about females such as the ones you referenced for years – he’s used offensive language in “sermons” for many years – long before PTSD.
The “n” word is not a word that you use in the context with which he’s accused of using it unless it’s in your vocabulary and used often – what does the moniker “half black” even mean it’s not meant to be offensive?
remember the “marine” bravado speech – that he tried to hide – even though it was public record – and finally a judge ordered it released – where he made many offensive and inappropriate crude comments?
The only surprise here truly is that anyone is surprised.
Caner IS NOT A VICTIM and CB SCOTT is not a villain!
February 6, 2015 at 12:30 pm
Tarheel,
You summed it: “Caner is not a victim, and C B is not a villan.” That’s the bottom line.
February 5, 2015 at 10:39 pm
I don’t know if CB is reading or not, but I am so proud of him, albeit sorry that it cost him such a heavy price, I am glad that he took the road he did, including the termination. I actually cried when I read the SBC Voices article and then today as I read this post. But I was also grateful to CB for taking the stand he took which couldn’t have been easy under the great oppression and opposition I am sure existed. I respect CB as much as I do Dr. McKissic right now, and see CB in a whole different light than I previously did.
As for SBCToday, I am not surprised yet I have washed my hands of anything they have to say on anything and this will continue until they do the right thing by telling the truth and acknowledging the horrible sins that have taken place. .
For Dr. McKissic, I love and respect you, as does my husband and we are standing by you and those affected in all of this. I am sorry that language like this exists and that you and those affected had to read the awful words or hear them as in the case of the witnesses. I am angry, but not surprised by any of the information coming out.
Dr. Willingham: I disagree with you. As Christians the Bible is full of standing for truth, standing and helping the oppressed and those who have no voice. I cannot love those who treat human beings in such a manner. I am human and it is just not in me to do. If to you that is wrong and sin, so be it.
February 5, 2015 at 10:43 pm
I also wanted to add a huge thank you to CB. Thank you for handling this situation as you did. Thank you for letting me know such people of high integrity do exist among Southern Baptists. Thank you.
February 6, 2015 at 12:37 pm
Debbi,
You did not wait ’till it became popular to resist and expose racism. You have been preaching & modeling equality, empowerment, inclusion, and mutual respect for a long time. I respect & admire you for that. Thanks for weighing in here.
February 5, 2015 at 11:19 pm
Dwight,
Thank you for speaking out on this and bringing the truth out in the open. The silence we hear from Mr. Caner’s past (and present I presume) vocal supporters is deafening.
God bless brother.
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February 6, 2015 at 8:40 am
What I see is a cat chasing his tail and getting nowhere. Sometime, somewhere … we all have to face the reality of who we are … sinners. Honestly, there is only one solution … our Lord and His forgiveness. I pray that all would turn to Him. Is Christ honored in the institution, the trustees, the individuals? Do we honor Him in our Churches, homes? I have never been big on the “blame game.” Sometimes its me and sometimes it is you. In our infighting … Jesus and His Gospel loose … period! As Southern Baptist we have excelled with our infighting since our conception in 1845. If we do not have something to fuss about … we will make something up. Run kitty run, but you will never catch it. I am convicted that we as Disciples of Jesus Christ are playing the part of the kitty.
The Sacred Text kicks the living delight out us. I recall in some places the folks living in Bible times fell on their faces and did not get up until the saw the face of the Holy.
Every time I cut my finger I bleed. The blood is red. You know I believe that all humans are just like me … they bleed red blood. Praise the Lord I love to sing “WHAT CAN WASH AWAY MY SIN … NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS!”
Honestly, with all our blogs and articles, we have lost our focus. Folks it has never been about us.
What say you?
February 6, 2015 at 8:46 am
My last though … there are no fresh starts with forgiveness.
February 6, 2015 at 11:31 am
The allegations of racism are ridiculous. I sat under Dr. Caner for several years while he was in charge of Liberty Baptist Theo;ogical Seminary. He treated me as a Black woman with the utmost respect. And let me enlighten you…CANER IS NOT WHITE.
February 6, 2015 at 11:40 am
First, this is the same tactic used in Kennedy’s piece. The allegations were about racially inappropriate language, not racism. Are you saying that the statements Dwight provided are lies?
Second: Only white people can be racist?
February 6, 2015 at 12:11 pm
M,
Which of the three quotes in my post that you don’t see as being racist? Two quoted using the N word in a vile, vicious, & vulgar manner; and one using the word “half Black” in a negative context. Which one of those usage of racial terminology that you don’t see as racist?
February 6, 2015 at 11:34 am
In following this story on several websites there have been references to the details but no “quoted” material. I am curious as to your sources for your account. I am fully inclined to accept the story as I first saw it on sbcvoices and here but you are the one who has presented evidence most fully In my experience things like this are done behind closed doors and only rumors come out. I would like to know how you obtained the information.
February 6, 2015 at 12:15 pm
Dennis,
Are you discounting or discrediting the I integrity of the info? Did you not see the signatures on the statements? They signed their names. There statements are the source documents. The persons who signed the statements are the source.
February 6, 2015 at 12:38 pm
No I am not calling your integrity into question. I hesitated to ask the question because I thought it could be taken as such. I am just curious to how you came about this info. The “News” outlets have not provided this level of information.
Haven’t we all been in a situation where there where charges, counter charges and no real clear information ever comes to light. In this case you have witness statements that in my mind a board of trustees (or the officers of an organization) would not release and they seem to be credible. I have had more than one occasion in my life when I would have like to have been able to shine such a light on a set of circumstances to provide clarity.
I mean no insult to you in this; I am just curious as to your sources
February 6, 2015 at 12:04 pm
Dwight, there’s something additional sinister in all this, and that is JD Hall’s own racism. I have links and screenshots of racist videos that JD Hall hosts on his older Youtube page that have confederate flags all over them with a song about stringing blacks up high and burying them in a swamp. And keep in mind, last time you and I interacted on Peter Lumpkins website was when JD Hall was defending James White’s “Black Churches Don’t Preach The Gospel” message on the Dividing Line. [ I will email you all of the links and screenshots from JD’s own mouth and channel so he can’t claim that some anonymous alien “photoshopped” anything]
As a Christian, I certainly understand the stigma of racist persecution, and I get it twice as much: by the rest of the world because I’m a Jew, and by my own neighbors because I am a Christian. Thus we don’t excuse Ergun Caner’s actions at all. We think his racial comments were abhorrent, and we’ve had our own issues with Caner before this ever came out. But for goodness sake, when his son is harassed to the point of suicide by the same racists who are now calling on him to repent of racist comments, it gets a little old seeing one side doing all the finger pointing and apologizing. JD Hall & Phil Johnson just recently lied about how Alex Malarkey ‘recanted’ and had no problem using a quadriplegic teenage boy to their advantage (Look up “The Malarkey Conundrum” on our website at Do Right Christians WordPress for the proof of this). This Servetus Klan will stop at nothing to vilify anyone that opposes their attempted Calvinist coup of as many SBC entities as possible.
But I’m sure you know that “race card” can also be abused, and in this case, JD Hall is merely using CB Scott to advance a radical Calvinist agenda. I’m sure CB is angry over his termination at BP and that is an obvious emotional tool available to JD Hall for exploitation, and he has certainly not wasted anytime in gathering as much information as he can from this “confidential source”. For over a year, JD Hall has consistently referred to CB Scott as a reprobate, ungodly heathen, and it wasn’t until just recently that Hall found a use for Scott and praised him as a great man.
Also, there may be a conflict of interest with the witnesses, as three of the men mentioned as witness coincidentally are three people that CB Scott either bailed out of jail and/or prevented from getting criminal charges filed against them. I am still working to confirm these details and at any time CB can correct me if I’m wrong (since I wouldn’t expect JD to be forthright and bringing out this information).
Just before “The15” started, JD Hall had recently claimed that all those who oppose Calvinism are lost men (Oct 9, 2014), then after The15 started, he deleted all of his Tweets and closed his personal page down, and declared that “we don’t all have to agree on salvation, but we can agree on integrity”. Integrity would include being honest about what you really believe about your theological adversaries, and not buttering up to them when they become useful.
That all being said, the article still raises some serious issues that certainly need to be addressed. But don’t you find it odd how many times a white man has some dirt about black racism the first thing they do is seek out a popular black man to report it? Nothing like good ole fashion reverse racism. Nevertheless I am sick to death of people not holding JD Hall accountable for his vicious attacks, his deceit, lies, adulterous behavior, racism, scandals. When these types of tactics are employed, it puts a person into a corner where to “come clean” would almost be as dangerous as keeping up the facade. Does that excuse the behavior? of course not, but JD Hall has never been interested in whether Ergun Caner confesses to any past wrong doings because the more he and James White paint him as a “Jihadist against Christianity” (posted clearly on White’s website), they can count on any person being stubborn enough to remain in their defiance, and that way they can continue using the same tool because as long as people defend Caner because of how viciously he is attacked on defensible grounds, the more Hall & CO can accuse them of defending Caner on grounds that are indefensible.
Whereas if real repentance was the goal, they would follow the Biblical pattern of Galatians 6, but according to “The15” and Hall’s Servetus Klan, that would be too much like being “Tone Police”. Condemnation has been the only goal Hall & Klan have ever sought. Jesus Christ, says John, came by GRACE **AND** truth. John 1:17. It is the false balance (Prov 11:1) that BP’s opponents have that are counter productive in achieving any meaningful repentance and reconciliation. Paul knew the benefit of using tact with leaders of reputation (Gal 2:2) and the failure of the Servetus Klan to have the right balance of truth AND grace is part of what I believe furthers the defiance of those they are after and threatens any meaningful communication towards a resolution.
February 6, 2015 at 1:11 pm
LOL!
Caner says vile and sinful and terribly offensive things repeatedly and ONCE AGAIN any comments are deflected by the old, tired and worn out “Its a Calvinist agenda” and add to that weak defense the incredibly petulant “well they did it too!”
.Dwight is not a Calvinist. CB is not a Calvinist. The accusers might not be Calvinists. Calvinism has nothing to do with this!
Also, the deflection of attacks on JD hall are irrelevant…this post is not about him – and even if it is true what you have said – it in no way negates the reality and sinfulness of Caner’s actions here and over the years that have been consistently defended and propagated by rabid defense without real accountability.
His defenders are partially at fault here because they have not only looked the other way but they have insisted on giving him platform!
February 8, 2015 at 8:36 am
Well said Tarheel.
February 6, 2015 at 6:42 pm
What does JD Hall have to do with this? A quick search reveals that Dwight did not mention JD Hall at all in this piece.
Also for the record, I think Hall’s interaction with Braxton Caner was monumentally stupid and inappropriate, but the narrative that Hall is responsible for the young Caner’s death is unproven and unprovable. To continue to spread it is irresponsible.
February 7, 2015 at 11:27 am
James Ach,
Your attempt to atack the credibility of the three witnesses with the insinuation that CB had bailed all three out of jail is an absolute, unequivocal, and completely false statement. You need to retract this statement , or bring some evidence-which is impossible to do, because no such evidence exist–that. This statement is true. Shame on you for slandering these good people’s names. Please do the honorable thing and admit that CB Scott has never bailed either one of these persons out of jail.
February 8, 2015 at 5:45 pm
James Ach: CB Scott is a great man. He did a great thing and paid a heavy price for doing the right thing.
I have not been a CB Scott fan, but I am now because he did the RIGHT thing in this situation. It was courageous on his part and he was more than honorable through it all. I have great respect for CB right now. You should too instead of unjustly vilifying him.
Your “facts” are meant to poison the waters of truth James. I think you should come clean with truth. You say many words but no truth is in them. Shame on you for writing what you have.
February 9, 2015 at 7:55 pm
Dr. mckissic,
You’d be well advised to ignore (and block) “James ach.” He’s a known wacko nut job who just makes things up, including a story that he’s some sort of former Israeli army commander or intelligence officer or something.
February 6, 2015 at 12:45 pm
Dr. J,
Would it have any bearing on the validity of this situation of what you are saying about the 3 witnesses is true? No it wouldn’t. I’ve not heard that before. I’m inclined not to believe it. Why would you even speculate about that without confirmation? Again, people fail to report racial incidents because it invites attacks from others. I am not an angry Calvinist. J D Hall & I aren’t on the same page in many regards. Please don’t conflate my motives with J D’s. I only want to see C B’s job offered back to him or he gets a one year severance with no strings attached.
February 6, 2015 at 1:50 pm
Dwight, Debbie, and others,
I haven’t heard yall talk about this. What do yall think?
http://baptistnews.com/ministry/people/item/29798-former-baptist-blogger-fired-as-congressional-aide
David
February 6, 2015 at 6:20 pm
This is the way things are supposed to happen.
February 7, 2015 at 10:50 am
Right Bill. I have always said it’s sad when society does what we the church should be doing. The handling of the situation with Ben was swift and just and no excuses were offered. The Church should be the first to handle racism in this manner, but it has not. That has always been my point.
February 6, 2015 at 3:05 pm
Interesting that volfan007 and James Ach are both trying to drive our attention away from Caner’s bad behavior. Neither JD Hall nor Ben Cole are the topic of this post. Perhaps you guys can write an article about those topics and then we can come over to your places and comment on the relevant topic.
February 6, 2015 at 4:35 pm
David: I think you know my stance. Racism is not tolerated by me period. None.
February 6, 2015 at 4:51 pm
I just saw you making a big deal out of what Ergun Caner said, but no mention of your friend, Ben, at all. Just wondering why.
February 6, 2015 at 5:09 pm
Volfan,
I have no idea who that is – nor why it relevant to a discussion on caner.
February 6, 2015 at 6:20 pm
Tarheel,
Someone from Debbie’s past.
February 6, 2015 at 7:46 pm
I’m with Tarheel. Don’t know the guy. I’ve seen his name here and there, but I know nothing about his story.
February 6, 2015 at 10:32 pm
Because I did not know of the allegations until today .
February 6, 2015 at 11:33 pm
Dear Debbie: You are so severe about anyone who does not take your view, and I made reference to the views of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.. He called on all to love their enemies. He even said that when the opportunity presents itself for you to defeat your enemy, that is the time which you must not do it. That is what he said in a sermon 20 days before my conversion in 1957. I do not approve of Dr. Caner’s conduct as far as I know it. I certainly feel for CB Scott. Both men are Traditionalists as far as I know, while I hold to Sovereign Grace. Dr. King was not Calvinist from all that I have read and studied about him, but he certainly set a pattern that Calvinists ought to follow. John Brown was a Calvinist, but he believed in taking up arms to end slavery. Someone once said, if I win my enemy by love, have I not defeated my enemy. A woman cared for a Communist in the Soviet Union who had been the instrument of her husband’s death. She won him to Christ. A friend of mine was tortured 8 hrs. a day, 7 days a week for two months and 28 days in World War II in the Philippines. After the war she won the man who supervised her torture to Christ. African Americans are often some of the best examples of the Christian Faith. Just tonight on the news, I heard a Black man forgive a young man who smashed into his car, killing the man’s wife and injury him. they interviewed the man on the nightly news. I know of other instances of that happening. God has great people among the African Americans, apparently more than among the European White Americans.
February 7, 2015 at 10:56 am
Dr. Willingham: I am being honest . It angers me when someone says what you have said because it is to take racism and minimize it. I can’t do that. Those who say the vile things such as Caner has said above over and over, and those who laugh at them are full of hate against a certain race, or gender. It should not be minimized at all.
Scripture interprets scripture and you know that James. There are many verses concerning the oppressed and how we are to stand for them. Those passages seem to be skipped. Common sense is also God given and some Christians do not have any to be quite honest, but God gave us the ability to reason and think and feel. These were not given to us by accident.
February 7, 2015 at 11:01 am
It’s not a matter of agreeing Dr. Willingham, it’s a matter of common sense and decency. I do not tolerate racism. That is true.
February 6, 2015 at 5:00 pm
David,
Is not what Caner said a “big deal”?
February 6, 2015 at 5:16 pm
Dwight,
I never said that, nor did I imply that. My point was simply that you and Debbie and some others were going to town on Ergun, but had said nothing about Ben. It just seemed a little odd.
I am not defending Ergun Caner. I know nothing, really, about what truly happened, or didn’t. I just know know that much ado was being made out of Ergun’s alleged remarks, but not a single word about yall’ s old buddy, Ben.
Do you see my my head scratching?
February 6, 2015 at 5:26 pm
Head scratching? Nope, not at all. You are not truly puzzled; you are clearly trying to distract from the topic of this post. Furthermore, you are using the old “yeah, but he did it too” argument. Pretty juvenile and transparent effort at deception.
If I’m not mistaken, you are a preacher. Deception isn’t a character trait a preacher should embrace. Beware!
The dateline of the article on Ben Cole was TODAY, February 6, 2015. Kinda quick to expect a reply to Ben’s situation, don’t you think? Unless of course you are playing the gotcha game to defend Caner. Caner’s shenanigans have been going on for 10+ years; this is only the latest, and it has been in process for a few weeks.
February 6, 2015 at 5:33 pm
Not defending Caner, at all. You are very wrong in your judgement of me and my motives.
February 6, 2015 at 10:26 pm
David: I knew nothing about the allegations against Ben until today, so why would I say anything about something I know nothing about. I didn’t write a post excusing him did I?
February 7, 2015 at 12:06 am
volfan,
I accept your correction and ask you to forgive me for wrongly concluding that you were defending Caner.
Perhaps you’ll accept my correction: If you don’t want people to think you are defending Caner, don’t enter a thread about him and try to draw people’s attention to someone else’s bad behavior, especially when that person’s behavior is breaking news not yet widely known.
February 7, 2015 at 7:21 am
Well, I don’t know Ben Cole but the differences are easy to see. No one seems to be writing posts defending Cole. The lawmaker for whom Cole worked responded to the racist episode by acknowledging the racist episode and showing Cole the door. He did not fail to mention the reason Cole was shown the door. Nor did anyone who works for the lawmaker write a positively glowing post extolling Cole’s godliness and characterizing Cole’s resignation as a bold and courageous move that came as a surprise to everyone. Nor was the person who brought the incident to the lawmaker’s attention summarily fired and offered a bribe to keep quiet.
So there are some differences.
February 7, 2015 at 9:59 am
I am not defending Ergun Caner. I know nothing, really, about what truly happened, or didn’t. I just know know that much ado was being made out of Ergun’s alleged remarks, but not a single word about yall’ s old buddy, Ben.
David, come on. I am just not buying that. You know enough to make an informed decision. You have read this post, SBC Voices.
February 6, 2015 at 5:35 pm
Also, I want to say that I have always known CB Scott to be a truthfully and godly man.
February 6, 2015 at 5:58 pm
“”To any and all who recognized inept policies and errant behavior, and who continued to speak out against such things even in the face of opposition from those who preferred not to hear it, you should be applauded, not ridiculed.” Spoken by then-president David Smith, of Brewton Parker College, about Martha Faw, who blew the whistle on financial misdeeds in the 1990’s at Brewton Parker. It seems their leadership is practiced at retribution.
The article, for those interested, is here: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-06-16/news/9806160140_1_whistle-financial-aid-false-claims-lawsuits
The Chicago Trib, already…….
If a prior comment mentioned this, I apologize. I’m old enough already without trying to read them all.
February 7, 2015 at 4:31 pm
My prayer is that God would heal Ergun Caner and his family’s aching heart. My prayer is that the Lord would repair the broken pieces of Caner’s life. My prayer is that God would build Caner up where he is weak and strengthen him where he’s torn down. My prayer is that God would raise up Caner’s bowed-down head. My prayer is that Caner would smile and be set free again from the chains that seem to bind him. My prayer is that Caner would soar high again in ministry and minister to others mightily from the pain of his experiences. Therein may lay the secret to his healing.
I pray that God would meet Dr. C.B. Scott’s every need during this turbulent season in his life and his family’s sojourn. I pray that he, his wife or children will not become bitter, angry or unforgiving. I pray that they will not be weary in well doing knowing that in due season they will reap if they faint not.
I pray that Brewton-Parker College trustees would offer Dr. Scott his job back. At the very least, I pray that they will provide for him a one-year service package with full medical benefits. It is morally reprehensible for C.B. Scott to walk away from BPC with absolutely nothing, while Caner walks with a full one-year salary and benefits package.
In this season, where the Southern Baptist Convention is making quantum leaps forward in race relations, I pray that Brewton-Parker College’s handling of this situation would not be viewed by historians one day as a step backward by a SBC-affiliated institution.
These words are so important and I truly desire that many Southern Baptists, including our leaders sincerely pray this prayer. The words are my desire and have been since 2010. I have never desired anything else. I never desired that Ergun go through what he has recently gone through. Never.
February 7, 2015 at 4:59 pm
Amen, Debbie, Amen!
February 7, 2015 at 4:59 pm
What is odd is how the situation is alleged to have unfolded. The poster Rick touches on it above, “Once a man has resigned his position, the role of his supervisors pretty much becomes moot.”
Can you imagine any Christian leader caught in moral compromise (such as receiving and replying approvingly to a nude picture sent by text message) simply being allowed to resigned – with a severance package at that?
How many past Christian leaders caught in immorality could have simply used this line of defense to make it all go away? Something doesn’t smell good in Georgia and someone is trying to put a cover over it!
February 7, 2015 at 5:21 pm
And, Debbie, I would not knowingly approve of any racism whatsoever. I exposed my self and my dear family to the possibility of harm, when I taught at South Carolina State College. While we never suffered any, one fellow in the neighborhood let it be known that he did not want to be at any parties, if they included me. Two and a half years before, the Whites had killed 3 African American young men and wounded about 18 others (not sure of the last figure), one of the latter was a student in my philosophy class in the Spring of ’71. He had not been a participant, but was standing on a proch of the dormitory, when the Highway Patrol, National guard, and I suppose the local law enforcement people cut down on the students protesting with some heavy weapons. The year before I came, one of my professors from Columbia University (he told me in the Summer of ’71) was arrested by the sheriff for tyring to assist Blacks to register to vote. By the Fall of ’71 our family had increased to five, my daughter from a previous marriage, a new son (who is now our pastor and has five African Americans in his church which includes two interracial marriages), and my mother-in-law, an elderly woman there to help my wife take care of a new born infant. Knowing what I knew about how Whites reacted to other Whites who worked to aid Blacks in the integration process, it could have been scary. Fortunately, we had no incidents and I felt no fear. Things were beginning to change even in Orangeburg. A dear lady friend of ours, , a school teacher in the primary schools, told me that she had chosen to teach in the Black schools, when she knew that massive integration was coming (it came in the Fall of 1970 and I served as one of the leaders in sensitivity training to help the students adjust to the reality). Her name was Mrs. Love, and she said, “Mr. Willingham, when I saw what segregation had done to the personalities of those poor little Black children, I cried.” With people like her the community would come to change, slowly, painfully, and yet surely. Since the Fall of 1973, I have been praying for a Third Great Awakening. Such praying and such event cannot over look injustice. Justice and Faith and Love are really inseparable and entertwined realities.
February 8, 2015 at 8:50 am
I will be praying for the students as they share their love and compassion for Dr. Scott.
Found on Facebook.
Troy
February 8, 2015 at 1:26 pm
That is one bright spot in this mess. The BPC brass have hung CB out to dry but it is clear that the students know the real story and where their sympathies should lie. I wouldn’t anticipate a surge in enrollment anytime soon. As I said earlier, BPC is desperate to craft the narrative to make Caner the heroic victim, hoping people will stop looking, because the more they look, the more the facade crumbles.
February 9, 2015 at 7:35 pm
Can anyone provide a link to this?
February 9, 2015 at 2:38 pm
Dr. McKissic, outstanding post! Thank you for alerting us to the problem of race at this school, and among its current and former administrators. Graciously you have revealed the hypocrisy and duplicity behind the school’s trustees’ overlooking one sin while allowing for resignation (rather than firing) for the other. The former college president’s comments at FBC Jax never received public rebuke from the leaders within the SBC, nor censure. However, the chickens have come home to roost. Be encouraged and continue to stand strong for the truth in Christ. You are a blessing to the people of CBC, and the kingdom of God. Blessings, ECR
February 9, 2015 at 6:04 pm
Bro. Redmond,
Thanks for weighing in here. Your perspectives, viewpoints, analysis, comments and commentary’s are always substantive and significant. May the Lord’s favor rest upon you in your new role.
February 9, 2015 at 6:28 pm
Does everyone remember the discussion on having Lifeway remove “the Shack ” from Lifeway bookstores. This is similar to that situation in the sense that the “system” works this way. The lawyers have set it up to work this way!
You dont follow the lawyers advice then you will be working outside the “system”. Not that hard to figure out.!
CB wants a severance check ……do what the lawyers ask you to do.
February 10, 2015 at 1:28 pm
Does that include lying Robert? I sincerely hope that is not what you are saying! Does that include ignoring racist statements Robert? I sincerely hope that is not what you are saying. Christians live in this world but by a different set of rules. I would rather lose my job than lose my integrity.
CB should receive benefits and severance checks because as a supposedly Christian institution it’s the right thing to do. I could be totally misunderstanding you and feel free to correct me, I hope I am misunderstanding you.
February 10, 2015 at 2:53 pm
Debbie…..Your conclusion presupposes one set of facts. I have not seen the alleged NDA. I doubt you have either!
2.Where does the Bible state a institution must pay benefits and severance upon departure of employment. Crickets …….Be Biblical .
February 10, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Robert,
The Bible does address issues of justice.equality, fair distribution, redress etc. Southern Baptist rarely talk about, or preach/teach on these matters, which is in part why we are in the predicament we are in racially as a society. If paying benefits and severance for Caner was a right, just, and biblical thing to do for working on a job for thirteen months and watching a major decline in enrollment during that time….then, benefits and severance would also be in order for C B, based on the same grounds it was given without hesitation or reservation to Caner. C B was not even facing charges of moral and racial indiscretions. Caner was. So, Robert, are you arguing that to give Caner a severance package was right, but to give one to C B would be wrong?
February 10, 2015 at 4:05 pm
Dwight …..The Bible did not obligate them to pay Ergun or CB. Period.
Having said that it is pretty common with NDA,s that one must basically shut your mouth ….post grant. The severance is predicated on your willing to agree to that stipulation.
February 10, 2015 at 4:11 pm
Robert,
Once they agreed to give Caner a severance, then fairness dictates that they give C B a sevetance. If the severance is predicated upon “silence,” then, is it really a severance or payoff to be silent?
The Lord will bless C B. But, it is dangerous for BP to play hardball & politics with a man of God & his family, as they are doing.
February 10, 2015 at 4:41 pm
Dwight —–fairness is not necc a Christian value. Ergun was the President and CB was under him authority wise. There is no obligation to pay the vice president the same as the president.
BTW—–using your position as a Black leader in the SBC is playing hardball and politics too. You do with discussions on womens roles in the church, speaking in tongues, and racial reconcilition issues.
My point is pot meet kettle.
February 10, 2015 at 6:05 pm
Robert,
Fariness is not necc. a Christian value? Only if you completely exclude James 2:1-13 from your list of Christian values. It speaks entirely of favoritism, which is the ‘fairness’ that Dwight speaks of. Favoritism that has been shown to Ergun Caner over and over and over. And now we are supposed to treat him with grace, mercy and prayer? It may be right to ask for those things for Caner, but where were the calls for grace, mercy and prayer for the Smathers or Autry families when Caner was suing those believers unfairly in secular court? Where were the calls for grace, mercy and prayer for others that Caner misled or was abusive to? And now where are the calls for grace, mercy and prayer for CB Scott, other than from Mr. McKissic? Dwight has actually been kind when discussing Caner. He explicitly said in the original post he wasn’t going to discuss Caner’s past. His point that seems to be lost on you is that Brewton Parker has treated Caner much more favorably than Scott. You say that’s no problem, but the Bible in the book of James says that is a problem for believers in our Lord Jesus Christ to do.
Dwight,
I appreciate you shining light on the problem. I’m a Georgia Baptist and have felt that for some time the Georgia Baptist Convention has acted in a corrupt manner when it comes to the state Baptist schools and other institutions. Thank you again!
February 10, 2015 at 6:19 pm
Dave,
The James 2 reference is appropriate. Thanks. Your comments are spot on.
Amos 5: 24, “But let justice run down like water, And righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Robert, are you in favor of justice running down like water, and righteousness like a mighty stream? Please don’t cut the spicket off on C B.
February 10, 2015 at 7:19 pm
Dave……I dont really think fairness and “favoritism” as synonyomous. I dont know if the favoritism that you speak of is true or not regarding Ergun.
I know that I have always been an outspoken Calvinist and Ergun and his brother Emir have always been only gracious to me.
I conversed with them both when I used to attend Two Rivers Baptist here in Nashville.
Contrast that with CB Scotts response to me via emails concerning Theonomy and you will see a man who is MEAN, MEAN ,MEAN lacking any Grace in my opinion! Certaily no fairness in his dealings.
February 10, 2015 at 6:10 pm
Robert,
“fairness is not necc a Christian value”
Wow!!! Have u not read Malachi 2: 10; Acts 6: 1-7; Galatians 6: 7
I am not a leader of any sort in the SBC. I have zero power. I’m not afraid to point out injustice & wrongdoing. My goal is to prick the consciences of fair minded individuals. In order to play hardball, I would have to have leverage or power. Again, I have none. But, I believe that by & large, Southern Baptists are people of goodwill & faith. And, I yet believe that the Lord will touch the hearts of the trustees at BPC, and they will make a decision, that’s in the best interest of fairness, justice, goodwill & the best interest of the school.
February 10, 2015 at 7:28 pm
Dwight —–the fact that you have posted this twice on here and on sbcvoices illustrates your power.
Your the point man for racial issues in the SBC Dwight even the pagans see that point!
Justice and Righteousness are not the same thing as fairness.
February 11, 2015 at 6:34 pm
Dwight: You have more confidence in the BPC trustees than I do. I think they might possibly be shamed into doing the right thing, but I think the fact that this story seems to be dying quickly, I doubt there is enough pressure for them to act. I think also that the push to make this about the tragic circumstances of Caner’s past is a way of camouflaging the situation with CB Scott. It’s all about Caner, not about the BPC administration and certainly not about Scott. The student body just might have the power to make something happen, if they have the will to do it.
February 19, 2015 at 4:17 pm
To all concerned,
Praise God!!! C B Scott has been reinstated to his position of Vice President at BPC. Dr. Bass, the interim President there,was wise, gracious, and courageous in making this decision. He is to be applauded and appreciated. I am happy for C B and Karen. I am hopeful for BPC that healing, and fulfilled potential would begin. Thanks to those of you who prayed for CB and BPC.
March 18, 2015 at 7:31 pm
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May 15, 2015 at 10:53 pm
Watch a movie called “Grace Card” and another one based on a true story called “Amish Grace”. I am tired of hearing the “race card” and I do not tolerate racial behavior of any fashion. The “race card or racial behavior should not be taken lightly and used to avoid responsibility for incompetence nor SIN !
May 15, 2015 at 11:34 pm
Dear Dr. McKissic: Prejudice is still a problem in our society. Recently, I found out that it runs the other way, too, and understandably so. I should also mention that I knew about it 44 years ago. It is sad that some continue this, and a part of this is simply the fact that people give offense and take offense, sometimes over the trivial and sometimes over things that really matter. African Americans do get to serve, too. You served on one of our Boards, if memory does not fail me. And I was not at the convention where you served in a higher capacity, being incapacitated financially and other wise. Part of the reason was I could not get a church, because, at least, in one instance, I was noted for being a radical by reason of teaching at South Carolina State. We actually heard the member of a pulpit committee of a church in South Carolina say that very thing. Needless to say, the committee did not recommend me.
May 29, 2015 at 5:12 am
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August 16, 2015 at 10:38 pm
Hello All,
Well, it seems his wife had cucked him. Please see:
Click to access caner-divorce-petition-compressed.pdf
Maybe it was with a black man?
Hopefully he will repent.
December 20, 2015 at 4:59 am
He told many lies about he was being a Moslem. He even doesn’t know the very basics of Islam.
He is a very big liar.
August 28, 2016 at 11:34 am
I would cuck him.
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